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Flawed premise.
Lemmy is not reddit nor should it aspire to be.
We don't want to attract reddit users, we simply want vibrant communities.
This type of attitude results in turds that won't flush like lemmit.online et al - a blight upon our fertile landscape.
Wow, do so many people believe Lemmy user are that much different than Reddit user? I mean I can totally forego all the bots, incels and astroturfing, but I do believe they migrate automatically once a platform got big enough. I don't think there's any way to stop that unless you want to keep Lemmy small forever.
Lemmy needs to grow because Reddit needs to go. Reddit has become too powerful for a greedy company like that.
You've missed my point.
I'm simply saying that migrating reddit users en-masse is the wrong objective. Just make lemmy awesome and allow users to come organically.
I couldn't care less what happens to reddit. Let them hang around and soak up all the idiots.
I'd like to echo this point. As soon as you set your objective to pull in Reddit users, you've set yourself up as the "Reddit alternative", you'll be chasing Reddit features and attempting to please the Reddit users. To succeed at this game is to essentially end up creating Reddit, but never surpassing.
In my opinion, Lemmy needs to have a clear mindset on what Lemmy is and what it isn't, then stick to that.
It would be a real luxury to have that clear mindset, but I don't think that's possible.
Lemmy is something like a teenager. It needs time for its own identity and culture to coalesce. For now I think the best we can do is to avoid the notion that we're alt-reddit.
Lemmy is already awesome. Case closed.
I would be very interested to see the percentage of lemmy users that were reddit users right up until the point they switched primary platforms. I have to imagine that number is near 99%.
Some of us have been here longer than the June 2023 reddit migration. The problem is that you're still a redditor at heart.
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Some are, but some are even worse than reddit, for example the cursed reddit custom of profile downvote... actually never happened to me on reddit but here it's constant.
Reddit made it so you can't downvote from a profile page, it simply wouldn't count. You had to open every comment individually and vote on them. Sorry that it is happening to you. Maybe make a new account, karma isn't that important, yet we all feel more welcome if there's positive votes.
Nah i don't give a shit about karma i'm just genuinly depressed people are this angry and petty. But then again it's not really surprising since it's mostly coming from the US bootlickers.
It also skews the point of downvotes even as disagree button.
I didn't know that lol, support my theory of some places (.world for example) being really worse than reddit.