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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The original Zionists did make deals with the Nazi Party, the Nazis supported the formation of Israel because the Zionists were anti-yiddish and anti-communist, and because Israel would help serve as a bulwark against the Middle East. To Stop Marx, They Made Zion is a good article going over the antisemetic origins of Zionism, written by a Jewish person.

Theodore Herzl, one of the founding Zionists, once wrote "It would be an excellent idea to call in respectable, accredited anti-Semites as liquidators of [Jewish] property. To the people they would vouch for the fact that we do not want to bring about the impoverishment of the countries we leave. The anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies.”

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reporter: [REDACTED]
Reason: Misinformation based on fringe Zionist sects

Theodore Herzl, fringe Zionist 😂

Theodor Herzl (2 May 1860 – 3 July 1904) was an Austro-Hungarian Jewish journalist, lawyer, writer, playwright and political activist who was the father of modern political Zionism. Herzl formed the Zionist Organization and promoted Jewish immigration to Palestine in an effort to form a Jewish state. Due to his Zionist work, he is known in Hebrew as Chozeh HaMedinah (חוֹזֵה הַמְדִינָה), lit. 'Visionary of the State'. He is specifically mentioned in the Israeli Declaration of Independence and is officially referred to as "the spiritual father of the Jewish State".

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Why am I not surprised a Zionist reported my comment...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's not remotely a reliable source. I'm no fan of European colonies in the middle east either, but any source that uses the word "Jewry" in the first sentence raises some eyebrows. This article also dances around the persistent anti-Semitic trope that a global Jewish conspiracy exists and does little to mention the (mostly) leftist Jewish Diaspora or the enthusiastic Yiddish speakers in the red army. It seems to collapse all Jewish people into the category of Zionist even while acknowledging internally that there many languages, cultures, and politics involved.

I am also fully aware of how horrible the nakba was, so I'm not apologizing for the atrocities committed by the state of Israel then or now.

This source also provides 0 references and the author is someone who calls themselves "Comrade Katsfoter".

Personally, I like my history sources to be vetted by peers and published in journals or books written by authors who are vetted by their peers via similar processes. You can and should do better than this.