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Ex leader of Germany confirms revelations by ex Israeli PM & Ukrainian media: "At the peace negotiations in Istanbul in March 2022 with Rustem Umerov, the Ukrainians did not agree on peace because they were not allowed to. For everything they discussed, they first had to ask the Americans. I had two talks with Umerov, then a one-on-one meeting with Putin, and then with Putin's envoy. Umerov opened the conversation with greetings from Zelensky. As a compromise for Ukraine's security guarantees, the Austrian model or the 5+1 model was proposed. Umerow thought that was a good thing. He also showed willingness on the other points. He also said that Ukraine does not want NATO membership. He also said that Ukraine wants to reintroduce Russian in the Donbass. But in the end, nothing happened. My impression was that nothing could happen, because everything else was decided in Washington. That was fatal. Because the result will now be that Russia will be tied more closely to China, which the West should not want.

And the Europeans?

They have failed. There would have been a window in March 2022. The Ukrainians were ready to talk about Crimea. This was even confirmed by the Bild newspaper at the time.

(Gerhard Schroeder shows a page from the BILD newspaper with the title "Finally peace in sight?". It says: "Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky (44) himself had already hinted at concessions for negotiations: He no longer insists on his country's accession to NATO, he told the US broadcaster ABC. And he is also ready for a 'compromise' on Crimea and the breakaway provinces in the Donbass. 'In every negotiation, my goal is to end the war with Russia,' Zelensky told BILD.

In 2022, I received a request from Ukraine asking if I could mediate between Russia and Ukraine. The question was whether I could convey a message to Putin. There would also be someone who would have a very close relationship with the Ukrainian president himself. This was Rustem Umerov, the current Minister of Defense of Ukraine. He is a member of the Crimean Tatar minority. Then the question was: How to end the war?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Also in this totally truthful article:

  • Germany and France need to push Ukraine for peace negotiations
  • Russia never wanted anything but to protect the Donbas
  • Russia didn't start the war, but NATO did with their constant aggression while already threatening Russia with missiles from Turkey
  • Russia would never attack anyone and the baltics or Poland are just hallucinating.
  • It's all the German Greens fault (important as that's the narrative in Germany repeated about 5 times per day by all opposition) because their insane ideology with not clue about reality makes them constantly offend Russia and China, so those poor babies are basically forced to cooperate when they all just want peace and cooperation with Germany
  • Putin never lied or broke his word
  • the public discussion in Germany is faked so its stupid and US controlled government can pretend that they are not working against their own population
  • Nordstream 2 needs to start operation quickly to save Germany's economy, the lines sabotaged by the US are actually easy to repair
  • only the Putin-cuddlers in Germany's fringe left party are understanding reality

I guess I will save this piece of crap as a reference. Every bit of Russian and Kremlin-induced propaganda in one neat package.