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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If they really wanted to change regulations they'd push changing zoning regulations in cities to allow building anything other than detached single family housing. That would be totally reasonable and help alongside tax incentives. But I have a feeling that's not what's meant by changing regulations...

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

They said “making federal land available”. I take that as they want to sell off land in places like national parks to be developed.

Which, needless to say, is an awful idea.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thinks that's one of those state's rights things where federal government can't just tell a town how to zone it's own land unless they're taking it away from the town like for a national Park or something.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

It's actually an instance of super small government. Those regulations are dictated by city's and counties not by states

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The american dream isnt raising a family in an apartment, and a lot of people were raised on that dream.

We need to change the perception of condensed housing I think before there is support for that.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The best way to change perception of mixed use residential areas is having people live there.

The bigger issue is that these buildings don't work by themselves. The biggest issue with suburbia is car dependency, which can only be countered by walkable cities and public transport (both of which require higher population densities)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I had another idea, if we reduced meat production we would get back land, could use that to make more houses. Sort of short term I guess. Or maybe its easier to plan a walkable city if you are starting with a blank slate.

What do you think of building new cities rather than retrofitting old ones?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Land isn't the problem, even in suburbia large commercial complexes fail all the time or rich people get some grand ambition to build their perfect city outside of the existing one. For example Las Colinas outside of Dallas. Or Rosslyn outside of Washington DC. These were planned in one go to be the ideal future of urbanism at their respective times, and there are many other examples beyond these. The issue lately if the local opposition is small or poor is zoning requirements and parking minimums drastically increasing costs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Unless those requirements and costs are entirely padded numbers, they are there to handle the amount of cars people will be using right?

How do we reduce car usage if we can't make walkable cities because of cars?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Before you can start to change public perception it needs to be legal to build densely. Parking minimums and a variety of other commercial building code regulations make this much more expensive in the US, all while the people nearby in single family homes fight any new builds due to their poor perception of condos and apartments. Just removing the stigma is only one part of the equation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Which part do you think has a larger effect, the regulations or the stigma?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

My perception of dense housing is smelling cigarettes and weed and hearing fighting, dogs barking, loud exhaust, and loud bass for hours on end.

I think we change the perception by enforcing rules to keep people from disturbing others peace at home. Make it a reality that dense housing isn’t a worse experience. That isn’t currently the case.

I’d be much more apt to go back to dense housing if I was confident that my complaints would be heard and actioned up to and including evicting the offenders (after many complaints and no corrective actions taken). But I have never heard of such a place.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ive heard that might be a materials issue. The apartment I stayed in had great sound proofing. I think its just lazy cheap builders, or whoever commissions their buildings.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I have no issues with my neighbors to either side of me. Either they're quiet or the walls separating us are decent enough to block it.

My issue seems to mostly come via the windows. Even closed, I can hear far too much.

I should clarify my original comment - I'm currently living in a townhouse (first time) and we're already trying to sell to get the hell out of here and back into what we're used to, a single-family home. I now understand why people hate them so much. I should have known from my time living in an apartment when I was younger.