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But how does this compare to "I don't care what they do in their own bedroom, but I don't want to see two men holding hands or kissing in public?" Because it really doesn't feel much different to me. Was the person you saw simulating sex at the time or just wearing a fursuit?
They were doing that "cute anime girl" type thing, idk, so maybe? Frankly, to refer back to my dominatrix example, I don't care if say this guy that comes up when you search "guy licks boot on subway" insists it's not sexual it's just because he has an oral fixation and I'm just sexualizing it, the people who do it sexual reasons have ruined it for him and it now carries connotations of a sexual nature. So a furry doing odd egirl type shit in public, whether they think it's sexual or not, comes off as such and gives me the creeps. It is what it is.
Gay people can also go way too far with sexual shit in public, there's actually a huge debate within the community about whether or not kink should be at pride events for example, and I'd say wearing a whole furry suit is more akin to wearing leather or latex BDSM gear than "holding hands or kissing," and your example is frankly disingenuous.
Sorry... you're comparing someone doing a "cute anime girl" thing in a fursuit with licking boots on a subway?
That's ludicrous.
You have an unnecessary word at the beginning of that sentence which shows your biases.
Also, if someone wants to walk around in dominatrix gear- as long as they aren't violating any local nudity laws, why do you give a shit?
This. People should be allowed to wear what they want. Even revealing things. It's not a crime to have a sexy/ugly/fat/average body. People should learn to ignore what people look like and focus more on their behaviour and values. Focusing on the attire makes people freak out because DIFFRENT!
Yeah, I really don't get it. It hurts no one for those people to just exist in public spaces. I'm only surprised the "what about the children?!?" card wasn't played.
If people want to go out in public like this, I don't see the problem. I probably won't stand there watching them, but it's not like I stand there watching people in general.
They're not spreading any body fluids around, everyone is consenting, I'm just not seeing the deal here.
It's not unnecessary, you brought it up! Why do you specify gay people kissing or holding hands then in your previous comment? Unnecessary to you right back then. So much "no u." You can't direct a conversation towards gay people just to claim that the guy replying is unnecessarily talking about gay people, that one is on you.
But yes, straight people, like MY ORIGINAL DOMINATRIX/SUB EXAMPLE, and the video I sent of the man licking a woman's boot, can also do creepy stuff. Try and keep up. Jfc, you have your sights set on trying to pin me as a homophobe so bad you can't see that I've been the one talking about straight people doing the creepy shit all along while you brought up the gay angle.
And because involving people in your kinks against their will is creepy whether your bits are showing or not, exhibit A: man licks boot on subway. Just do that shit in private (or private enough public locations, like a bar, con, club, etc). There's places for that, the subway, park, store, whatever, ain't it.
Why do you think I specified it? To show the bigotry you aren't aware you have.
No, I am showing how you are being the same as homophobic bigots with people who have other ideas of what attracts them. If you said something racist about Asian people and I compared you to someone who said something racist about Native Americans, that would be an apt comparison.
Do you not have a neck? Do you not have eyelids? No one is forcing you to look at someone in dominatrix gear if they're out in public. This is ridiculous prudishness.
Why? Because you don't like to look at it?
I don't like to look at sweaty, shirtless middle-aged guys walking around when it's too hot. It disgusts me when I see it. Should my disgust be catered to or should I just put on my big boy pants and cope?
Exactly, trying to paint me as a homophobe, by pretending people wearing fursuits is the same as homosexual people "kissing and holding hands" rather than closer to wearing leather or latex. Last I checked homosexuality isn't a fucking costume but by all means imply it, that's your bigotry you aren't aware you have. Again that's on you.
This is a farce lmao, furry != gay, you're operating under a false equivalency, gay is not a fetish and you equating the two is frankly WILD.
Lie. I explained what I was doing.
Because it is no different. It doesn't hurt you either way.
Again, other than you personally finding it disgusting, what is wrong with it? Do you think society should cater to your whims?
Kink in public being gross isn't just a me thing lol, it's a pretty widely shared opinion, just because you want to subject others to your kinks doesn't give you an automatic "I'm not being a creepy gross asshole free" card.
Again, I'm not saying we should imprison them or something like you seem to think, I'm just saying you're gross, creepy, and an asshole for subjecting people to your sexual behavior in public.
And, as I have tried to explain to you more than once, many people feel that way about gay people. In fact, if you go to pretty much any southern U.S. state, you could definitely call it a widely-shared opinion.
And most people don't care if you think they are gross, creepy and an asshole as long as you don't treat them like shit in return. Which is the issue here- people treating furries like shit. Always. For existing. Because, like you, they think they are gross and creepy.
And, on top of that, as I pointed out, some people call others furry as an insult because there's another F- word they know they can't use. But they have no problem using it when they know they're around fellows.
Kissing and holding hands are widely accepted for straight people to do in public even amongst homophobes.
Amongst non homophobes, this extends to homosexual people.
Wearing fursuits, BDSM leather, latex, etc, is a large sexual step above kissing and holding hands, and are not comparable to those regardless of the sexuality of those kissing, can we at least agree on this? If not we have nothing further to discuss.
Here again in your last bit you attempt to paint me as a homophobe. I have a feeling we're done here dude, you are just full of bad faith arguments and hot air.
Let's add that kissing and holding hands is not acceptable even for straight people in some parts of the USA, which I find very sad.
Kink shaming, unfortunately, IS a thing.