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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not too big of a leap to imagine a world where a person could immobilize a car at a red light with the plug cut off from a public charger. Wall up to a stopped car, open the hatch (maybe it needs a pry bar) and put the dummy plug in.

Sounds like a lot of hassle. If they want to immoblise a self driving car they just stand in front of it.

Why carry a plug cut off from a public charger when you can just stab the tyres?

Use the pry bar to smash the window and open the door. Not open the charging port.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
  1. It's about hitting electric cars, self driving or otherwise.

  2. Cars can still move with punctured tires, at least far enough that a would-be robber or carjacker could get dragged a good distance.

  3. You smash the window and open the door. Now the panicked driver is speeding away, leaving you high and dry or dragging you along.

Being able to completely immobilize a vehicle while keeping it intact is a criminal's wet dream. It's incumbent on car manufacturers to consider that while implementing safety features.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Being able to completely immobilize a vehicle while keeping it intact is a criminal's wet dream.

It's been a reality for over a decade.

https://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/

My point is that plugging in a charging cable is way down the list of attacker tools.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure, but it's on the list.

If it saves even one human life it's worth switching to an alarm instead of immobilization, even if that means hundreds of breakaway cables get snapped by morons driving away from chargers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What if hundreds of lives are lost due to broken cables snapped by morons driving away from chargers?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How the fuck do you think gas pumps work?

I'm done feeding the trolls.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Gas pumps are something you’re doing “right now”, so you ought to remember. Vs a charging cable s something you plugged in last night and left that way. Much easier to forget.

You’re very unlikely to change drivers at a gas pump so you probably won’t forget. Vs a charging cable is something your spouse may or may not have plugged in last night, and they’re not necessarily there to remember.

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen a gas pump with trigger lock. You have to be actively involved with pumping gas, holding it the whole time, so unlikely to forget

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So we are agreed. Immobilize vehicles both when they are charging and refuelling.