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Democratic vice-presidential candidate calls opponent a ‘slick talker’ in first comments on Tuesday’s televised clash

The day after the only vice-presidential debate this year, Democrat Tim Walz called his Republican challenger, JD Vance, a “slick talker” who was trying to rewrite history and gaslight people about Donald Trump’s record.

During a rally in York, Pennsylvania, Walz made his first public comments on the debate, which polls show was essentially a tie between the two vice-presidential candidates. The Minnesota governor was on a tour through the swing state on Wednesday.

Walz said the two men “had a civil but spirited debate” and that he didn’t underestimate Vance’s debate skills.

But, he added: “You can’t rewrite history and trying to mislead us about Donald Trump’s record. That’s gaslighting. That’s gaslighting, on the economy, reproductive freedom, housing, gun violence.”


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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 month ago (3 children)

“With that damning non-answer, Senator Vance made it clear he will always make a different choice than Mike Pence made,” Walz said on Wednesday. “And as I said then, and I will say now, that should be absolutely disqualifying if you’re asking to be the vice-president.”

Not American, how was Pence?

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Pence was Trump's last Vice President. His politics are as bad as any other republican, but he did the bare minimum of admitting to losing the last election and didn't take part in any of the election overthrowing funny business.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

The VP has basically a ceremonial role to "certify" the election. When Trump lost he told Pence to not certify it. Pence looked at the law and decided that he had to certify it. Trump tried to get the Jan 6 crowd to kill Pence.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pence rummaged in the law’s panty drawers looking for a loophole, and when he couldn’t find one, he called Dan Quayle to ask if there was any way at all he could violate his duty and support trump. Only after Quayle told him no multiple times did he finally, begrudgingly decide he had to certify it.

Let’s not give Pence more credit than he deserves.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That headline about Quayle saving democracy doesn't make sense. If Pence had no power on Jan 6th then there was never any danger from him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The issue is how the constitution lays out the choosing of a president. Pence had to certify the results, if he had refused to do so for long enough, then that session of Congress may have ended without choosing a president.

At that point, the Constitution prescribes there is a contingent election in the House, where every state delegation to Congress gets 1 vote. There are more red states than blue states -> Trump wins.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think you meant to say Pence throughout your reply, and not Vance. Yeah?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Whoops fixed 2 out of 3, did get the last one right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You took away his balls? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Although even then (not debating what you wrote, just adding) he tried every possible legal avenue he could to comply with Orange Burger Lardball's request before capitulating and doing his job.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pence certified the 2020 election, and his party built guillotines outside the capital in retribution. The kicker is the constitution provides the vice president no authority to reject it - it's a formal process and he was following the law. vance's response made clear he hasn't accepted the results, and likely wouldn't have certified. should it be disqualifying?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The potential VP just admitted that he would not faithfully carry out the duties of his position in our government.

If an applicant for a job tells his potential employer that he will not do part of the defined job description it is 100% disqualifying.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

These seem to be Schrodinger responsibilities.

The VP is both responsible for certifying the elections and simultaneously have no power to reject them.