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I have a number of Lemmy instances meant for discussion groups around specific topics. They are not being as used as I expected/hoped. I would like to set them up in a way that they can be owned by a consortium of different admins so that they are collectively owned. My only requirement: these instances should remain closed for registrations and used only to create communities.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think this sounds like a good idea. A problem when starting a community is that one wants to find a stable home; it might make sense to set up camp at, say, hardware.watch, but without knowing who operates it it might feel more uncertain than lemmy.world.

And then, as a result, if lemmy.world ever disappears or has problems, it'll take way too many communities with it.

If these topic-specific instances had some sort of collective ownership, I guess we could more effectively guarantee for their continued survival, and it might be more tempting for existing communities to move over there.

I'd be interested in hearing the thoughts of some admins - would [email protected] be interested in moving to [[email protected]](/c/[email protected]), given the right organization?

And a piece of constructive feedback: Vague community names like [email protected] is probably less likely to attract attention than something specific like [email protected] - when searching for a community, people look up the community name rather than the domain.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'd be interested in hearing the thoughts of some admins - would [email protected] be interested in moving to [[email protected]](/c/[email protected]), given the right organization?

I'm not the main mod of [email protected] so it's really not my decision to make, but moving the community to a domain with the word soccer in it is a tough pill to swallow. As silly as it may sound, there's a lot of people that don't like having football referred to as soccer.

Moving away from lemmy.world and their annoying VPN restrictions would be nice though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

moving the community to a domain with the word soccer in it is a tough pill to swallow. As silly as it may sound, there’s a lot of people that don’t like having football referred to as soccer.

Sounds silly indeed, but I agree (https://feddit.org/comment/2048090 )

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had a feeling that would be an issue!

On the one hand, football@soccer would be a good compromise.

On the other, we're right, the Americans are wrong. Simple as that. So I sympathise with the lack of willingness to compromise on the matter.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Americans are wrong

Don't forget Australia, NZ, S Africa, and a few other places like Japan.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How accurate is this map? If the Irish call football soccer, it would be most shocking thing I've learnt in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just checked, they call it football. Like everyone with half a braincell.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I'm sure the Irish call it football when they speak English, but what about in Irish? If Google translate to Irish is trustable,

English to Irish Football = Peil

But also Soccer = Sacar

So maybe there's two accepted variants. But where does Pail come from anyway? Let's translate it back to English:

Peil = Very big potato

So most of the world plays football, some strange corners of it play soccer, and the Irish play very big potato.

I'd love if a native speaker could confirm this. #Irish #Gaeilge #football @[email protected] @[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Feel free to register a football domain. I will host it for you, free of charge.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

As I'm sure my home instance reveals, I do like the idea of focused instances. I think a general sports focused instance would be better than sport specific instances though, at least with lemmy's current size. It's not sustainable to pop up an instance for every sport out there, like strongman or arm wrestling.

And people would also have to be able to sign up to the instance. Which if I remember correctly you had a very different opinion on when you spoke to Snowe on [email protected] about programming.dev. Just from a technical standpoint, the federation latency and general wonkiness is real and is why my football bots are running on Lemmy.world despite programming.dev being my preferred instance. Near real-time communication is important during live games where minutes may drastically change the topic.

And while I'm sympathetic to your cause, inertia is a real thing and lemmy.world is competently run, even if I strongly disagree with their VPN restriction.

If you somehow managed to convince the other sports communities to migrate to a common instance I'd happily follow along though, but I find it very unlikely happen. [email protected] is the one primarily in charge of [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I realized the issue with "main" as the name after the second time I wanted to post something and realized that the domain name is not used in the search field. I'll suck it up and just create a new community.