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Project 2025 mastermind allegedly told colleagues he killed a dog with a shovel
(www.theguardian.com)
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I’m confused. What should we be calling the dog commonly known as “pit bulls”
As the owner of a dog that is half pit bull, I would also like the answer to this.
Good bois and girls.
Mr. Worldwide is the generally accepted term.
Call them pit bulls.
Staffordshire Terrier
No
I'm almost afraid to ask how, but let's see your racism for what it is.
How is "pitbull" used as a racist dog whistle?
It's not. What's going on here is that dogs were bred for different things. Retrievers retrieve. Pointers point. Herders herd. Pitbulls lovers don't like that pitbulls were bred to fight bulls and then bred to fight other dogs in pits. So they say "it's all how you raise them" and any discussion about genetics they say is doggy racism, the same as human racism. Problem is dogs were specifically bred with artificial selection for hundreds of years (which is a ton considering dog years and big litters).
It is and was common to outlaw pit bulls in cities across the US on the misinformed grounds that they are aggressive. This was absolutely the case around the time this shit stain allegedly did whatever he claimed to do. What this law did in practice was to make it difficult for black and brown people to get occupancy permits in those municipalities, those who most commonly had them. Neighbors could use the ordinance to harass and complain about other "unsavory" neighbors. This guy is a piece of shit for killing a dog and for being a racist scumbag. Bragging about it and you don't think they're intrinsically related?
I get what you're saying, but I honestly feel like you're being disingenuous here. Only in exaggerated media (shows, movies, music videos) do predominantly POC own pit bulls, which is where the stereotype came from.
Where I live, it's mostly white people that own pit bulls and such. And it's also those same white people that are mostly impacted by such legislation. Personally, I think it's utter bullshit to ban an entire breed of dog and I've seen so, SO, SO many people literally saying all put bulls should be put down.
I call those people "dog racists," and they always fail to see how their line of thinking could extremely easily be switched to a group of people rather than dogs.
Just because people have done great work to undo that horrible unjust stereotype does not make the lived experience of people like me and so many others any less real.
Or... the sick fuck beat a pit bull dog to death with a shovel.
Or both? He's clearly a racist.
Whether or not he's a racist, a pit bull is a pit bull. My dog is half pit bull. Does that make me a racist when I say it?
No. It does not. Like a lot of language, context is important. That's part of the definition of a dog whistle. Pit bull is still a trigger word, hell most if not all animal shelters avoid using the term for dogs like yours and mine. They call them terrier mixes instead.
What are you even talking about?
If that was the breed of dog, what was he supposed to call it? Scotties are terriers. Jack Russels are terriers.
Nelson looks like such a happy boy
I wish I could take them all home, but I already have two dogs and I'm already concerned about double the chances of catching stupid disease from them.
He's a beauty.
Fucks sake, I'm not trying to gas light you. Maybe you don't live in such a hyper racist and segregated city. I'm tired, my back is killing me and just because you gave me one site doesn't prove your point.
What the fuck are you talking about? I never said you were trying to gaslight me. I also never called you stupid, I called my dogs stupid. I also don't live in a hyper racist and segregated city. I literally live in a neighborhood with a mix of white people and POC- mostly black and south Asian. We are all friendly to each other.
Fair. Sorry. My bad. Unfortunately I do live in one and am stuck here. 😔
I know I already replied with a joke, but just wanted to point out that it is the literal name for a common breed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Pit_Bull_Terrier
Yep, I know! It still can be a coded way for white supremacists to complain about and harass neighbors. There were laws on municipal books outlawing pit bulls that were used against people of color.
Edited the original comment for the spelling correction. Thanks!
What the fucking fuck
I'm preeetty sure that's just the name of the breed but there are some serious racial undertones and associations going on:
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0305959
https://notoleranceforantisemitism.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/pit-bull
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Pitbull
That first link hits the nail on the head.
The link pointed out how in recent years the association has gotten weaker, especially since so much "positive pit bull posts" have been circling apparently. But its not inherently a dog whistle to bring up a literal breed of dogs, anymore than it would be to mention Rottweilers out of the blue.
Yes, but the perceptions and dog whistle remain.
Is everything a dog whistle to you? Do you even know what a dog whistle is?
No, not everything is. Ffs. Thank you for such an engaging and thought provoking response.
You too :)