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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

After the arrest of Pavel Durov, I wanted to move from Telegram to something end-to-end encrypted. I know Signal is pretty good, but I think it is better to have our messages in my own server.

I have already looked in XMPP, but it required SSL certs and I did not have the mood to configure them.

Do you know any other selfhosted messaging service for a group of 4-5 friends, or an easy way to configure an XMPP server? Or shall I use Signal after all (I don't really care that much about being selfhosted, I just thought it would be more privacy friendly)?

UPDATE: I managed to set up an XMPP server using prosody with the SSL certs. We have been testing it with my friend and it seems to go well.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (11 children)

SSL certs is so easy with let's encrypt, that really shouldn't be a blocker.

If you want something easy I think you have your answer with Signal

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

I know, but for some reason my router does not let me access my domain (with duckdns) when connected to my network. So even if I get certs for the domain, I will not be able to access it. I have set up local DNS entries (with Pi-Hole) to point to my srrver, but I don't know if it possible to get certs for that, since it is not a real domain.

EDIT: Fixed it. (See reply for fix)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Are you using a *.duckdns.com domain or is that only for Dynamic DNS pointed to something like jelly.domain.com? I'm not sure if you'll be able to get a cert in the former scenario.

Your router won't let you access it because you're trying to connect from your internal network to your external network, so you're just connecting in a loop and not getting routed properly. This could work if you had a firewall that would let you set up a loopback NAT, but my guess is your router won't let you setup NAT rules like that.

You won't be able to get a certificate using a local domain from a public certificate authority (like Let's Encrypt). You would want to define the FQDN you want to use, like jelly.domain.com, and generate the certificate for this domain. You can do this manually with certbot and import the certificate to jellyfin, or put jellyfin behind a reverse proxy like Caddy or Nginx and let it handle automatic renewal for you.

The local DNS entries would then redirect internal requests for jelly.domain.com to your local server, which presents the same certificate for jelly.domain.com regardless of whether you're accessing it via the private or public IP.

A bonus of using something like Caddy is being able to open a single port on your router for every service. I have multiple services all accessed via the same port, and Caddy just reads the requested subdomain (jelly.domain.com, nextcloud.domain.com, etc) to route the traffic to the corresponding local server. This lets it handle every cert for all services with no manual steps needed for any of them after the initial setup, and reduces your attack surface by only having one port open.

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