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    [–] [email protected] 163 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    if this is true I might actually stop being lazy and mess with Linux for my personal systems

    [–] [email protected] 110 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Please do.

    One of us, one of us!

    [–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    There is no "us" or "them". If Microsoft will maintain its streak of spoiling everything they touch, everyone will switch to Linux sooner or later 😉

    [–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Now, for an actual sane take, unless we do the actual marketing work in order to gather interest from people, no, not even close to everyone will switch to Linux, specially considering Microsoft has literal millions of dollars to spend in marketing and will likely spin this in a way that non-techy people specially will buy in due to not knowing any choice.

    This is a PSA begging people to contribute to their favorite distros not (only) with code but with marketing. Social media posts, videos, word of mouth recommendations, advocacy, events, etc. If your distro doesn't have a marketing team, create one, as most projects should already have done two decades ago. If your distro has one (like we do in Fedora), join it. There'll likely be something you can help with.

    [–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

    Okay, you've got a point 😅

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Arch doesn't need a marketing department. If someone uses Arch they'll tell you.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

    That's true. We're just getting the window managers and drivers ready for everyone who will follow us.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    This is extreme copium, sorry to say. You have no idea how much shit the average person will eat to prevent having to learn something new. For someone who has never manually installed an OS before, even Windows, the idea of doing that with something like Linux and potentially deleting their existing OS is genuinely frightening. Never underestimate the fact that people will pay through the nose to ensure they don't have to contend with the unknown.

    [–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    https://www.windowslatest.com/2023/10/16/no-windows-12-is-a-free-upgrade-and-wont-require-a-subscription/

    As it turns out, the rumours discussed by some outlets are based on the “IoT Enterprise Subscription” of Windows 11, not Windows vNext. For those unaware, Windows 24H2 or Windows vNext is what Windows 12 is being called publicly. As you can see in the above screenshots, the “subscription” code strings found in the preview builds are associated with a new Enterprise version of Windows 11 loT and have nothing to do with Windows 12 or future versions of the OS.

    I’m not saying to use it or to not switch to linux, but maybe this isn’t that much of a concern.

    I’d be more concerned about

    the next version of Windows will be heavily integrated with AI and cloud capabilities.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Windows accounts for 12% of their profits, and I'm willing to bet that the consumer versions are a very small part of that. Most businesses are not buying OEM licenses. They are already using a subscription model for M365 which includes Windows licenses or a standard EA or SA agreement.

    They learned after the Windows Phone that they don't need to win the client OS battle as long as they can get their other products on the devices. Since then Windows has really focused more on keeping you locked into the Microsoft ecosystem versus keeping locked into Windows itself. Hence why the upgrades have all been free where in the past you would have to repurchase each new edition of Windows.

    Of course I could be completely wrong. They have done some bonkers stuff in the past.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    Agreed. Also why they're more and more fucking annoying about OneDrive and O365 subs. I would be extremely surprised at seeing anyone at MS thinking the best way to monetize Windows is to get consumers, who are notoriously more and more tired of subs in general, is to get them to pay a sub fee on the computer they bought. Let's face it, virtually no one is buying a Windows license, it comes with the machine they buy. If you told people that they have to now pay a fee every month/year to keep using it.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    Good ol click bait titles.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I don't use it sense 11, but aren't more recent versions of 11 already having Machine Learning "AI" Built in?

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    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm an early adopter of Linux (early as in 96-97) but I also run MacOS and Windows so I'm I tell you this from an unbiased point of view. Linux has never been easier to run. My daily driver is a ThinkPad running Pop!_OS Linux and I never have to think about it. I just installed and everything ran.

    I don't game on my daily driver, I use MacOS for music. At this point Windows is relegated to Adobe Creative Suite, GeForce Now, and the occasional game I can't run on Linux or GeForce Now.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

    Truly ungovernable, mad respect.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    No doubt. LibreOffice is way better than the windows office sweet now. Seriously zippy fast and easy to use. And less stuff breaks.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I haven’t found it that difficult. Just take the plunge.

    [–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I'm not concerned with difficulty just that it'll take a bit of my time

    yes I'm lazy

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

    It's very gradual and fun because it's new. A lot of you being lazy is also just your safety mechanism kicking in so you don't dive into every single urge all the time.

    Once you dip your toe, you'll be at it for a long and good time.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's easy if you know how to manage your anger

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    oh I'm experienced with anger I assure you. I work with CSS and PHP in my job

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    you'll do fine then

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Or not. Swearing at the screen and punching the keyboard always feel cathartic after failling to do something for the nth time.

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Just start by dual booting one of the "easy" distros and doing stuff that doesn't require Windows. Eventually you'll start spending more and more time on it out of comfort, then one day you may realise that you haven't needed your Windows partition in months, and can skip out on it entirely.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    Another alternative is to use FOSS software this is available on Linux and Windows. Get used to the software before the desktop itself. For me, dual booting was a lot of work and wasn't fun. Maybe live booting for a session or two could be a way to go? I never tried that.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

    News flash, it's not

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

    I made the switch about a two months ago. I'm using my windows side of my dual boot a hell of a lot less than I thought I would, mostly thanks to steam's proton.

    Started with zorin, but eventually landed on mint.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    linuxjourney.com is a good resource

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    I’ve already been playing with Nobara and Linux Mint.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    Hard agree. I got a friend trying to get me on linux, and I've just been on windows since my first pc.

    But fuck it. I'll maintain 10 until eol and then whatever Linux supports will be the games I play on steam.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

    I personally reccomend Zorin OS. The default GUI has the windows layout, so you won't be too confused. Also it is very pretty.

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