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[–] [email protected] 140 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (46 children)

This is probably "felony murder". The rule here is that if you are committing some kind of felony, and someone dies as a result, then you are guilty of murder for that person. This bypasses all of the usual intent filters between first degree murder, second degree murder, and manslaughter.

Classic example: you and a friend decide to hold up a bank. It goes sideways and a bank security guard shoots and kills your friend. You are guilty of murder because your friend died because you both decided to commit a felony.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

The rule here is that if you are committing some kind of feeling, and ~~someone dies as a result~~ a cop murders somebody, then you are guilty of the cop's murder.

FTFY

This bypasses all of the usual intent filters between first degree murder, second degree murder, and manslaughter... in order for police to pin their murders on minorities despite all reason and case history.

FTFY.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Cop murdered no one. Shooting someone who's charging at you with a drawn weapon isn't murder.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

if it isn't murder, then why is the kid charged with it?? that makes the entire thing even MORE ridiculous!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"Felony murder" is a different animal. It's kind of like how even though "rape" is generally defined by a lack of consent, there is also "statutory rape", which one can be charged with, even if the sex was consensual.

To summarize how "felony murder" works:

The felony murder rule is a rule that allows a defendant to be charged with first-degree murder for a killing that occurs during a dangerous felony, even if the defendant is not the killer. The felony murder rule applies only to those crimes that are considered “inherently dangerous,” as the rationale underlying the felony murder rule is that certain crimes are so dangerous that society wants to deter individuals from engaging in them altogether. Thus, when a person participates in an inherently dangerous crime, he or she may be held responsible for the fatal consequences of that crime, even if someone else caused the actual death.

In this case, the "inherently dangerous" felony was armed robbery.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

that's a ridiculous concept from start to finish:

"you stood near a cop when he killed someone, so now you're a murderer even though you objectively didn't kill anyone and we know who the actual killer is"

this is completely insane.

it's not "a different animal", it's insanity.

just insanity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"you stood near a cop"

What disingenuous bullshit, lol. A bystander would never get charged with this, only other people actively committing the same felony with the criminal that died (and it doesn't matter if they were killed by a cop or died any other way, including accident, if it happened while committing a dangerous felony, all of the criminals committing it are responsible), fuck your goalpost move attempt.

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