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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It is a stupid law being applied in the most ridiculous way, by being punished for the police's actions.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But several in the group, including Washington, fired shots at Millbrook police officers who responded Feb. 23, 2015,

They fired at the police and one died as a result. They were all charged with murder.

Seems the law is being applied correctly.

As for the law itself I'm pretty torn on this. If someone dragged my kid along to a crime and they died as a result I'd have no problem with them getting charged for their murder.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And what if someone dragged your kid along to a crime, then got themself shot and your kid now has to spend basically their whole life in jail?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That's exactly why I'm torn. Be pretty hypocritical not to allow it to be applied the other way right?

And it was 25 years anyway for the crime plus it seems there was a lot more going on in this case including a couple other murders.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No, it's not hypocritical because you're missing (or ignoring) intent. Someone pressures your relative into doing a crime, reluctantly. Now the other criminal gets killed and your reluctant relative is on the hook for a murder they didn't commit during a crime they didn't really want to be a part of.

That is in no way comparable to a mastermind gathering a bunch of stooges for a suicide mission and getting them to commit death by cop.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Fair point.

But here he did shoot at the cops.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

No there wasn't. That was a separate case that we don't know the disposition of. That commenter brought them in but in any court that kind of argument is banned unless they were convicted or it's part of the matter before the court.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are missing the point of the argument. Prison is supposed to be for rehabilitation anyway; except in extreme circumstances. This type of law and sentence only exists to feed the for-profit prison system.

Most importantly! Why the fuck are common thieves being put in prison for life when the Boeing execs — whose premeditated fraud directly killed of hundreds of people — are chilling with the plutocracy on their 3rd yacht?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I mean they're being put away for shooting at the cops and robbing people.

But your point about the execs stands.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

This case does seem pretty open and shut tbf.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The top comment makes it seem like Smith wasn't some unwilling participant in the burglaries

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which has dick all to do with the murder charge. It is not normal to charge someone for a murder they didn't commit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Hey, don't blame me, I'm just replying to them. I wasn't the one to bring it up

And what if someone dragged your kid along to a crime, then got themself shot and your kid now has to spend basically their whole life in jail?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seems the law is being applied correctly.

Yeah that's what they said about the holocaust.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I don't think it is