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I realize the universal translator is just a hand-wave to avoid the "Aliens Speaking English" trope, but there are at least some basic rules established for it:

When it translates, it will use the closest approximation in the database, it can learn as it hears more of a new language, it's apparently a neural implant (at least with Ferengi), and probably a few more that I'm missing.

Does it keep the original speaker's voice, tone, inflection, and in this case, melody? Does Kira hear Vic singing in perfect Bajoran or is the universal translator belting out Frank Sinatra in Lwaxana's voice? Do the lyrics still make sense with the computer translation?

I very rarely complain about the UT, and I enjoy the Vic Fontaine component, but I just have a hard time combing the two lol.

Sometimes I wish they would have gone with a "standard" language like Space Esperanto that just sounds to the audience like English rather than the UT.

Update: I completely forgot Federation Standard existed, and that's probably the language Vic is using, and Kira is very likely fluent due to her time spent on DS9. It's kind of a retcon since that wasn't mentioned until DIS, but I can live with it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vic may be singing in Federation Standard (aka English)

Wait a second.... You're telling me that in the future there's peace on Earth and we don't need for money or food or anything and the standard language is (effectively) English? And the French are ok with that? GTFO. πŸ˜‚

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The "French" aka Jean Luc Picard? He's rather British for a Frenchman. Maybe WW3 had some other consequences.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Interesting point. His family has that longstanding vineyard that produces purportedly non-radioactive, if tart, wine.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Worf wouldn't know it's called wine?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One of the lesser moments of weak writing made painfully present throughout Star Trek: Picard. That being said, it's part of a great ongoing joke about ChΓ’teau Picard being a terrible wine.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I had no idea it was a terrible wine. Not sure how I feel about that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

He may know Picard calls it wine, but he may not be able to call it that himself because the running joke is Chateau Picard wine is terrible.