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How do we get "normies" to adopt the Fediverse? (lemmy.zip)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This is a follow-up from my previous thread.

The thread discussed the question of why people tend to choose proprietary microblogging platfroms (i.e. Bluesky or Threads) over the free and open source microblogging platform, Mastodon.

The reasons, summarised by @[email protected] are:

marketing

not having to pick the instance when registering

people who have experienced Mastodon's hermetic culture discouraging others from joining

algorithms helping discover people and content to follow

marketing

and I'm saying that as a firm Mastodon user and believer.

Now that we know why people move to proprietary microblogging platforms, we can also produce methods to counter this.

How do we get "normies" to adopt the Fediverse?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That may be true for some people, but isn't a valid generalization. See the Brazil blocking Twitter situation.

Millions decided to give Bluesky a chance and a graph showed daily user activity quadrupling. Now, a not-insignificant portion are saying they refuse to return to Twitter because:

It feels less toxic and healthier
They have more control over their experience
They're finally having fun with social media again

Sound familiar?

And I'm pretty sure Misskey has more features. Hell, Mastodon as well probably. Bluesky doesn't even support video yet.

The first sin of the Fediverse isn't being small, that's the second. First is being a pain in the ass.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The migration that happened from xitter being blocked in Brazil is a good example of a bandwagon effect, or "people go where people are". If xitter wasn't taken down, neither bluesky nor threads would've received such a big and immediate influx.

Also worth noting is that the vast majority went for those 2, bluesky more so than threads, instead of any mastodon instance because those 2 are the mainstream alternatives

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, people chase content, which means chasing where many people are, but why did Bluesky become a mainstream alternative and Mastodon didn't?

I'm saying marketing doesn't cut it, and it's not just about where most users are either, otherwise everyone but Threads would be irrelevant.

People bounce off both Threads and Mastodon, and there are platform-related reasons for that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The number 1 pain in Mastodon is the dev team. I mean come on, there are plenty PRs to make mastodon better usable and they just get rejected.

Also we could have some sort of algorithm like we have here in lemmy (hot/scaled/new) but if you talk about it there you are instantly the devil. They WANT mastodon to be different, even if this hurt the userbase.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Discoverability is a huge barrier to entry in the Fediverse, and they're not helping.

It's hard for me to judge them too harshly, though. Fediverse devs do things I disagree with all the time, and users too. Maybe, in a different world, something else could've taken Mastodon's place... but its forks stick close, Pleroma has the charm of a brick, Misskey is too 日本, and Misskey forks got Messy, and—

...Oh. That's it, isn't it? Mastodon is the best that ActivityPub has to offer most microblogging fans.