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If you use Mbin, what's the difference between a thread and a post? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I wish the fediverse would just stick to one set of jargon, and everybody uses the same terms to mean the same thing. Even "instances" should just be called "servers". That's all it is. This server talks to that servers, and information is exchanged.

So, if I understand this right, "magazines" on Mbin are the same as "communities" on Lemmy, are the same as subreddits on reddit. Three names to mean the same thing.

And a "Thread" is just a post. Like I'm making a post right now on Lemmy. If I did this on Mbin it would be called a "Thread".

But then I see there's also "comments" which is self explanitory (I hope...)

And there's also "Posts". But if Threads are posts, then what are Posts?

QUIT FUCKING AROUND WITH TERMS, FEDIVERSE! LETS ALL JUST KEEP THINGS SIMPLE!!!

........I keep thinking I have things figured out, until someone says "yeah, but have you tried this?" and then I look into it, and I'm confused again. Arg!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I guess part of it is that each platform wants to be specific to the purpose of its own network/platform. Mastodon as a Twitter/Tumblr like microblog site, PixelFed like Instagram, Friendica like Facebook, so on and so forth. Align all terminology to one set of terms I think takes away from the uniqueness of each platform. If you want the truly neutral default cross-Fediverse term, then just use the one from the ActivityPub spec. That pleases every Fediverse platform equally, i.e. not at all.

Users = Actors. Upvote/Favourite/React = Like. Post/Note/Toot/Thread = Object. Happy? Didn't think so.

When one network interacts on another, the target will do its best to translate your actions into the way it does things. That's why Link posts from Mastodon appear so wonky in Lemmy, and you can only reply to Mastodon users who posted in a Lemmy community.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree. Except boosts. That should die and up/downvotes should just be the thing driving aggregation. Nobody boosts enough to make a difference anyways and some apps just tie the boost button to the upvote button so the feature actually gets used as expected (if enabled). It’s already hard enough to get regular people onboard here, with all the instance and account confusion with hit or miss syncing options and instances disappearing sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I feel like your preference makes sense when aligned from the perspective of a conventional forum-like platform. However I'd argue that that's missing a core part of what kbin is/was -- and by extension what Mbin is -- which is the microblog integration alongside the forum-like stuff. With that context in mind, boosts (or whatever term you want to use for "retweet") make sense to integrate imo.

Whether or not you think Mbin should try to integrate the microblog side of things is of course a subjective - I personally think it's a cool idea to try at least, but with how dominant lemmy has become it can be difficult to reconcile differences and incompatibilities between it and other software like Mbin.