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  • Former President Trump defended his actions regarding the 2020 election, claiming he had the right to interfere and criticizing the charges against him as politically motivated.
  • Trump argued that the legal actions against him set a bad precedent and accused prosecutors of bias, specifically mentioning federal charges and a Georgia case involving alleged election interference.
  • The Harris-Walz campaign condemned Trump's remarks, stating that he is pushing false narratives and emphasizing Vice President Harris's commitment to upholding the rule of law.
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[–] [email protected] 166 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It still bewilders me why we are even having this conversation. The guy tried to overthrow our government. The government of the people, in accordance of our constitution. If that’s not the definition of treason I don’t know what is.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The bewildering part for me is to watch an entire first world nation of millions of thoughtful people just allow all of this to happen and continue to happen.

I gave up on Trump years ago (and I didn't think much of him to begin with) .... much of America is still holding on to him and that is the problem.

Trump as a person and personality is not the problem .... there are hundreds of people waiting on the wings just like him.

It's the American mentality and the people who support this stupidity that are the problem.

It's the American financiers and multi millionaires that enjoy funding and supporting this lunacy that are the problem.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

American finance and corporate lobby enjoy the benefits of political instability and the lack of accountability and regulation from which it results. Citizens United really ratcheted up the bullshit we see today.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Let's be honest, if someone said your company can make another 10%, and you know you will be canned if your numbers don't look good, you think lowering the taxes on your large company suddenly looks better. People are selfish and greedy, they will say well how much can it really hurt the populous, if they even have that much th of a conscience. They have to donate money to get tax breaks, so they donate it to someone who will help them line their pockets. Our tax code entices political bribes/lobbying. So candidates get more money, and companies keep giving it so they can line their pockets, all the while shorting the working class.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, I can understand but I do not empathize. Citizens United deemed corporations as people and gave them the right to donate to political campaigns. They are not people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I agree with you, that's why I was saying the tax codes should be changed as well to not incentivise it. Tax the companies (tax brackets would be good as well, so small companies are taxed lower), and no tax cuts for donations. Use the taxes to fund actual support for people, not lining people's pockets.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Which is why John Roberts is a pivotal traitor in American history. None of this would be possible without him. He held the power to stop all this shit before it even started. He is the proximal reason for our predicament.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

thoughtful people

There’s your problem right there

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problems are multiple but to me the main problem seems to be a feckless DOJ captained by Merrick Garland whose been asleep at the wheel or at least in the deep pocket of the Federalist Society.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Yes the DOJ is worthless and I frankly believe a plant by the Republican party. Because so far is letting the right get away with whatever they want.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (1 children)

trump himself provides the argument for why going after political candidates for "treason" is dangerous. Because if he steals it, you can bet that a LOT of Democrats are literally going to be lined up against a wall and shot (or abused horribly if they are one of the women they are obsessed with...). All because they commit "treason" along the same lines that mtg and the like insisted on impeaching Biden as retribution.

That said, we had four fucking years to investigate this and didn't even start to do anything of worth until year three. And then gave up when one shitty judge stalled and a bunch of shitty politicians declared trump immune from all crimes.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is why it's important to lock him the fuck up and make sure it sticks.

He's going to have people lined up and shot regardless if he has to do another insurrection or not. best make sure he can't do that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

His supporters will do it for him regardless, mark my words. We're going to see instances of people being shot for being Democrats after the election regardless of who wins.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Well sure, but his fans are the people whose ancestors seceded from the US because they wanted slaves.