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Are westerners being robbed of TP when we get the hollow rolls? Is communism the right path after all?

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (10 children)

Don't go to Russia. Every once in a while you can encounter this atrocity. Yes, it has holes right out of the roll, no perforation whatsoever and not even a hole that you could hang it on and therefore outer layers are always dirty. And, of course, feels like a sandpaper, tears when wiping, but stretches when you actually try to get a piece. Please don't tell me that this exists outside of Russia, that'd be way to much assrash for this world.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

when you take brutalism so far that your toilet paper looks like concrete

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s just a little asbestos, don’t worry about it comrade!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Fireproof toilet paper, truly innovative.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don’t go to Russia.

There's a very tall list of reasons to not go to Russia and their toilet papers isn't very high on it.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't know...

My list goes:

  1. Their toilet paper

  2. I might criticize Putin

  3. I might criticize the government

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Well, I wouldn't worry about 2 and 3 that much. It's just that as a foreigner, especially if you are from the US, you will most definitely fall under the surveillance of FSB and the cops will look at you twice, but they're not paid half-decent enough to actually give a shit and do their job properly. They might harass you here and there but if you don't do anything stupid like protesting in red square or doing selfies in front of military bases, then they'll have nothing against you. I imagine that's not that much worse than living in the US under CIA's umbrella and trigger happy cops. Other than that, it's not nearly an extreme hellhole like NK, Afghanistan or Syria that people make it sound like. In fact, you can get by in Moscow or St. Petersburg without a guide or translator just fine. I'd rather advise to watch out for the tourist traps(the usual), and to avoid getting out of the city limits and into the suburbs because of the much increased crime levels.

Ah, and put the fact that for every dollar you spend there, you put 20 cents straight into Putin's pocket into that list...

And also that you'd probably need a visa and it's a hassle...

And that you'd probably need a Russian friend to get you hooked up with the basics and avoid going through the bureaucracy - like with currency exchange, credit card, carrier plan, etc...

Also that weather is rather harsh there...

And also that it's probably the dirtiest country on earth because city planners didn't zone out lawns and parks properly therefore the mud gets spread absolutely everywhere...

And that internet is half-broken, with half sites censored while the others block everyone from Russian IP's because sanctions...

And that Ukraine might not let you in afterwards...

And that you'd for sure be questioned by your homecountry's intelligence services...

And that's about all that I can think of.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And you'd likely be held prisoner as a trading chip for Russian murderers.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well, it that case you're referring to, the guy was actually snooping around which would fall into doing stupid things. But, just in case, just this once, here's a free get out of jail free card: If you ever got caught just say that you're an orthodox christian who came to Russia to enjoy based traditional culture in this bastion of anti-woke-ism and family values, and complain about some dumb shit like how western liberal agenda prevents you from hitting your wife or something. They can't put you on TV while you are in prison, so they'll have to let you go.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But I saw Mr Bald and Bankrupt do it several times! And he only went to jail twice!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

He did use the get out of jail card, though, so it's all good. But I would advise to not try use it more than once.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Does the FSB have the good toilet paper?

That would be helpful.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

it’s not nearly an extreme hellhole like NK

North Korea is like ten times nicer than Russia, and definitely doesn't belong on the same list as Taliban-controlled Afghanistan or still-a-warzone Syria, regardless of what you think of their government.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

oh bless your heart, you sweet summer child

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

unquestioningly believe Western propaganda about a country you've never been too

it's OTHER people who are naive

'kay bud.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, and the Earth is flat because you never went to space to confirm it's a globe. Stupid people don't know they're stupid, it's only a problem for everyone around them. Get help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

The US government has not funded seventy years of flat earth propaganda which the majority of the population believes without question, so your point is a total non sequitur.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

girl, there are pictures of north koreans gathering GRASS because they don't have food. And they will kill you or put you in a camp if you try to leave.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Been listening to Yeonmi Park, I see.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You know she's not the only defector there is, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You know what? Fuck you. I've got better things to do than argue with tankies who imagine that authoritarian regimes are good just because they have red flags and claim to be communist. Do a service to humanity and yourself, and stay out of political discussion until you've aquired some education on these issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

The first step is denial, shortly thereafter, anger. I know it's hard to accept that you've been lied to your entire life about something, but doing genuine research on socialist governments is what set me free from my own liberalism and it could do the same for you.

I'm not talking about watching YouTube videos either, I'm taking about reading books. When you're ready, I recommend starting with Blackshirts and Reds by Michael Parenti.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago
  1. Might accodentally fly my drone into a cracking vessel at an oil refinery. Whoops.
[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's because soft toilet paper is too gay for Russia.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Fellas, is it gay to use tp that doesn't hurt?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You see these in Poland every now and then, just with an actual central hole. I remember seeing these in my school, we used to call it srajtaśma ("shit tape" is the best translation I can think of), and it was just as bad as you described it. It also had a very particular smell to it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

Funny how I could probably understand what you mean if you said it without translation. Sounds very simillar to срать тесьма, which is also shit tape, though it's not a correct grammatically in Russian. To my knowledge, we don't have a specific name for it, but if there were I'd say it'd either be студенческая/солдатсткая (student/soldier) paper because they're so poor, or жоподёрка (the assripper)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I encountered this in Ukraine, often combined with those toilets in the floor and/or extremely rickety, extremely "well-loved" outhouses. Once, we stopped in what appeared to be a stranger's yard and my hosts advised we were at the rest stop. I asked where the restroom was. They all started laughing. They are a hearty bunch.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

The one that's just like a concrete block with few holes in the floor? God that shit's terrifying. Grew up in Russia and luckily never had to use one of those as they were never the only option. But if I had to, I'd rather shit my pants instead. Had to use shoddy garden toilets, squat toilets and toilets with no stalls before a few times each, all were awful experiences, but this thing, it combines all three for the ultimate discomfort.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Very close to it, yeah, like a very thin and shitty one. Doesn't stretch as much nor is as sturdy, but the texture is spot on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

These exist and are widely used in rural Romania. Even public institutions like schools and town halls use these there. They're not the worst you can get though. About 10-15 years ago you'd also stumble across houses that had no toilet paper, just newspapers. You were supposed to wipe with those. Not a fun experience!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Its literally tissue paper, I think youre being pretty dramatic

looks like itd be more ecofriendly because its mot bleached, and its not shipping around with a heap of empty space for the (now i think about it) oversized cardboard tube

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

My public school in Louisiana had very similar toilet paper. I'm not sure if its actually the same, but it certainly looks like it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

What the hell??? This can barely even be called "toilet paper".