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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The animal industry feeds the plants as much as the plants feed the animals. I'm not sure how vegans feel about synthetic fertilizer like miracle grow, but that's what will have to be used in place of manure if the meat industry goes away.

Many of the organic crops grown use animal manure to fertilize the plants. I know you can use seaweed and other plants for compost(weeds are already composted back in via tilling, seaweed requires harvesting from the ocean or long distance shipping from farms), as well as cycling crops to prevent nutrient deficiency.....

BUT manure doesn't just add nutrients. It adds beneficial bacteria that helps keep the soil healthy and make the nutrients bioavailable to plants. It conditions the soil for water retention, and helps break up clay soil and add organic matter to sandy soil.

Will vegans keep animals just for manure? Or will organic lables on food be less important? Are we going to start scraping the forests for leaves to chop up an add to farm soil? That can't be good for forests though. I guess I'm just confused about how to maintain large farms without access to large amounts of manure.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

The ideal answer is compost, regenerative agriculture, and (better treated) human-sources waste.

Organic crop yields will almost certainly reduce a bit without animal waste fertilizer, but that is fine since crop consumption will fall by a greater amount due to not needing to feed a bunch of extra animals.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

an interesting idea, but anything that decays and "composts" can be used as a fertilizer so.

This includes things like organic scraps, you don't just have to use animal shit. Although it's a pretty good one if you have access to it.

I think personally, we should move to a more decentralized food production system, to help alleviate some of the costs of industrial agriculture, which are pretty heavy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Diseases spread via human feces which why we tend to not use it. We could sanitize it by processing it, but then it won't carry the benefit of beneficial bacteria cultures so it's not as good as animal supplied manures.