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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Those poor cats. Vegans shouldn't be allowed to own meat.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Dogs taste better anyways. Can’t beat a good Elwood’s steak!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

That website is confusing, it doesn't let you order any dog meat. It also seems to assume I would have a problem with the product? Is that a strategy to make me want it more?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Doing this sort of "eating a cow is no more ethical than eating a dog" thing isn't necessarily untrue (although ethics are, of course, a subjective thing) but it does not really convince people not to eat meat. If you are going to argue from an ethics of killing and eating an animal angle, talk about why it is cruel to kill and eat animals that most people who eat meat are used to eating.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Different people react to different things. It takes many approaches to reach multiple types of humans.

I personally reacted after months of being shown hypocrisy, with the tipping point being when I said there’s no problem with eggs and dairy before I was shown what the egg and dairy industries do.

Part of that process was really realizing, not just knowing but consciously thinking about and considering the fact that humans are also meat. I am meat. The cats I loved were meat. My human family is meat. It’s not okay to eat them in a sandwich. Why is it okay to eat strangers in a sandwich?

No one approach will work on every human, and many people take a lot of different approaches over time to really understand.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I always fall back on the concept of graphing how delicious the animal is vs how much of an asshole it is. Ducks? Absolutely delicious and raging assholes; they are the perfect meal. Dogs? Too sweet to ever try and on the negative side of the asshole graph. Cats? Rather asshole but not sure how they taste...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you're joking but I have seen people say this seriously so I'll respond seriously. Determining which conscious beings to inflict pain and suffering onto based on characteristics they were born with through no choice of their own is pretty shitty.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

I’m all for the most humane and ethical means of getting meat and the day I can get a steak that didn’t require a cow to die but is indistinguishable from the real thing I will absolutely switch over, but until then I’m going to enjoy delicious, delicious duck and not feel bad about. Wouldn’t eat a dog even in an apocalypse though.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago

Yeah that's an obvious troll response you vеgаn's use

People are well aware of it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I am mostly vegan and my cat and dog eat mostly meat 🖕

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That you for being reasonable and not insane.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

vegans care about animals. I assure you it is the norm

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yep. My vegan brother has two dogs and three cats and has no problem giving them meat (or meat-based food anyway) as part of their diet.

It's not some universal idea that vegans will be okay with keeping meat-eating pets but refuse to give them that meat.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No it's not a universal idea, but it does happen and it is animal abuse when it does.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree with you, but this is definitely not an argument you want to go into because it caused an absolute massive shitshow. Check out the top pinned post on Lemmy.world.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I did see that shitshow you refer to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I realized that was likely true, but the ones who aren't are just so damn loud about it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I have met far more people complaining loudly about vegans than I have loud vegans

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vegan is a philosophy, not a diet. The word you’re looking for is plant-based, not vegan.

A vegan wouldn’t buy leather shoes or woolen sweaters. Someone on a plant-based diet would.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Sure, but the average person does not know or care about the distinction. It's much easier to explain this way. I'll see if I can incorporate this terminology instead next time though

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago

Great idea, let's stop re-homing rescue animals shall we?