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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Everyone will be better off if Trump loses. Billionaires, Republicans, progressives, climate activists, Wall Street bankers, and congresspeople of every party.

Trump’s second term will be a Project 2025-enabled attempt to simply destroy the United States government and inflame a civil war in order to keep MAGA in power forever. I guess under the assumption that it’ll work smoothly and everything will continue as normal after, just with MAGA people in charge of the magically-still-working-smoothly machinery of the country?

It’s like those people who bought plane tickets to January 6th, thinking they would go there and violently overthrow the transfer of power and kill any congresspeople that stood in the way of it, and then they could go home and show up to work with Trump now in power and everything would go back to normal.

It’s naive to the point of absurd self delusion. And roughly 95% of our media and government is going along with the delusion. Anything reporting on “Trump is ahead in polls in Wisconsin” instead of “Trump wants to kill anyone who opposes him and destroy the Department of Education and deploy the military against any domestic opposition” is feeding into the comforting cognitive dissonance that things will be within the normal parameters if Trump wins and abortion or “the economy” will be on the table as issues, and not “what can we do to get water and charge my phone today” and “which side’s forces is my governor on the side of”.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Fact check:

Claim: Everyone will be better off if Trump loses

Verdict: False. Trump will not be better off if he loses

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Counterpoint: he might die throwing a tantrum after losing.

We can't talk to the dead, how can we say for sure he's not better that way?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Well he might not go down in history as the guy that destroyed American democracy. That might be a good outcome in the long run

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

It’s like those people who bought plane tickets to January 6th, thinking they would go there and violently overthrow the transfer of power and kill any congresspeople that stood in the way of it, and then they could go home and show up to work with Trump now in power and everything would go back to normal.

Do you remember when armed militants invaded the Malheur wildlife refuge in Oregon, setting up what was sure to be a long, violent standoff with police and military?

2 weeks in, they arrested one of them. He'd taken a stolen ranger truck to get supplies at Safeway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Thank you. It boggles my mind how almost everybody's just whistling past the graveyard on this!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

It’s naive to the point of absurd self delusion. And roughly 95% of our media and government is going along with the delusion.

I think everyone paying attention is fatigued by everything being the end of the world. Trump fetishists aren't going to change their minds and everyone who sees the danger he represents don't need to be told. The sky has been falling for eight years with Trump and so far nothing has even slowed him down (aside from the 2020 loss).

We're almost done. Trump does not have another run in him. He's half crazed now, by 2028 he'll have his hands full dealing with the dementia. All that matters is that he loses. If Kamala wins, Trump is no longer America's problem.

Personally I'm more concerned with what's going on in red state governments and their efforts to pass heinous laws that will get challenged to the supreme court and erode the rights of all Americans. Unless Kamala expands the court of the house impeaches some justices, it doesn't really matter who is in the oval office.