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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Google kind of sucks.

What was their last big success? Google maps? Pretty much everything they do lately is some combination of shitty or prematurely killed.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google more than just kind of sucks. Like you said they haven’t done shit in a long time outside of making the internet more hostile with shit like this and their planned chrome-based anti adblock (a LOT of browsers run on chromium which would bring the same shit, Mozilla4lyfe)

Also, the google graveyard is just pathetic at this point. They truly can’t do shit outside of anti-user bullshit

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Android? Google Photo? Google Pixel? Google Pay? Google Apps? Chrome? Chromebook? Google Drive? Chromecast? Android Auto?

They launched a ton of successful stuff since Maps came out in 2005

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Immich is on a par with Google Photos, imo. It's self hosted though, so not for everyone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I have an immich instance myself, and do plan on relying more on that as I max out my Google drive size.

The bigger issue I gave with that is remote backup still imposes a cost, and like you said you gotta know what you're doing to safely expose that to the Internet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That is true. I only use mine locally, so it's not a problem. Although you can remote access via Tailscale for safety. It's quicker and easier than trying to set up remote proxies etc, about which I know nothing. Tailscale took 5 mins.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I personally love it. Being able to search "Tom at the beach drinking a cocktail" and get all the relevant pictures is magic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does it? It's a fantastic service that works really well, whether it's worth the price or privacy is a slightly different conversation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

whether it’s worth the price

You don't have to pay Google a penny. I bought a quite cheap (50-60$) used but working Pixel 1 XL specifically for unlimited lifetime full-quality Google Photos upload.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You got me! Android came after maps in 2008. So that's not a great argument for recent development. Is pixel meaningfully different than Nexus? That would put it in 2010, or 2016 if you insist pixel is a big innovation.

Chromebooks are also a 2010 project.

Google pay I don't think is a success? Didn't they like relaunch it recently and shit it up by tying it to phone numbers instead of your Google account? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/10/google-pays-disastrous-year-continues-promised-bank-account-feature-is-dead/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/01/google-pay-hopes-to-recover-from-brutal-2021-with-new-leadership/ . Also the original release is 2011. Quite some time ago. But technically newer than maps!

Drive is 2012. Dang, got me. But that's still more than 10 years old, so my actual point seems to stand.

Chromecast is 2013, so maybe within this decade.

Auto is 2015 but I know nothing about it.

I guess I should've said "in the past 7 years" instead of exaggerating and saying since maps!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

But all "successes" are gonna be years old. You don't turn something like Chromebook into an overnight success. It takes years for an ecosystem to grow, users to find use cases, software revisions to polish the product, word of mouth, etc.

For comparison the Apple watch came out in 2015 and Airpods in 2016. What other successes has Apple had in the past 7 years? Maybe their AR thing will take off, but if it does it's probably 5-10 years from becoming a mass market product.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Android is developed by a consortium of developers called The Open Handset Alliance under an open source license. It is most certainly not a Google product, any more than Linux is a Canonical product. As in, they help develop it but it's not their product.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That is really playing with words... Android (the OS people run on their phone) was originally developed by a company bought by Google, which then funded it, made the overwhelming number of contributions to it for 19 years, does the marketing, certification plus all the non-open source elements that make the experience what 99.99% of users get everyday when they use their phone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most of their innovation has been for developers it seems.

Edit for clarification: since Google maps