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[–] [email protected] 124 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (14 children)

I love how the solution is to cram people into smaller and smaller boxes instead of just I dunno not monitoring your fucking drivers like they're fucking inmates in a maximum security prison you fascist-lite fucks

Edit: Good on 'em for quitting. Every single member of the population should refuse to work for these pricks until they get the goddamn message that we're adult fucking humans and we expect to be fucking well treated like it. The fact that some of us have the choice between kowtowing to this or starving is a stain on our society.

Double edit: "I hope you have to drive for Amazon in your retirement" might be a contender for the most horrible thing you could wish on someone in 2024.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (7 children)

You should almost never quit if you expect to be fired. Make them fire you and file for unemployment, then challenge them when they try to get out of it. The government tends to err on the side of the employee in my experience when things are unclear, and "We have a knowledge gap that prevents us from confirming whether or not you were actually violating policy, but you're fired anyway" is the kind of thing you can feel pretty confident challenging.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

These drivers are most likely contractors, not employees, so no unemployment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If the drivers are contractors, wouldn't this level of surveillance and dictating how they perform their job be a violation of labor law? I thought this level of micro management would indicate that the drivers are employees not contractors.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Correct! Amazon and other delivery companies are absolutely violating labor laws and they're getting away with it because of regulatory capture.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

I thought I just saw the other day that a judge ruled they were employees, not contractors. Let me look...

Okay, it's a little more complex than that - looks like it was one of their "delivery partners" who decided to unionize, and the NRLB ruled Amazon is a joint employer with the delivery partner company. lol Gift WaPo article for it. I couldn't find other sources.

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