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ISP to Supreme Court: We shouldn’t have to disconnect users accused of piracy (arstechnica.com)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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It feels dirty to agree with an ISP on something. But even the worst corporations are on the right side of something from time to time I suppose.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I know you know this but it bears saying explicitly: it's because pretty much all laws are out there to enforce property first. Humanity is secondary. We all know implicitly that it's not illegal to share your water because it's unethical. It is illegal because making it illegal protects the water company's profits, humanity be damned.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We all know implicitly that it’s not illegal to share your water because it’s unethical. It is illegal because making it illegal protects the water company’s profits, humanity be damned.

it's perfectly ethical, unless i'm stealing the water, they're using the same water i'm using and that means i'm paying for it. It's literally not a problem.

It might cut flat charges but, get fucked.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think you misinterpreted, because you two are saying the same thing. It is ethical to share. Therefore, it has not been made illegal for being unethical (because it is ethical), it has been made illegal to protect profits.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

oh i think the phrasing just confused me lmao

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

For sure. Even when it isn't a law the same outcome happens when corporations get the police to enforce their policies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How though? If you're using extra water to share with your neighbor, and YOU still pay your water bill, they still get extra money for extra usage, right? It just comes from your wallet rather than your neighbors.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Because your sharing your water with them disincentivizes their paying their bill.

Extrapolating on this, if you could legally share your water with the neighborhood couldn't an enterprising person with a zeriscaped yard sell their water to a thirsty lawned neighbor? That's money the water company considers theirs