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Except for IKEA executives, they would spend 4 years assembling the cabinet.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

you're drawing false conclusions from incorrect assumptions and half-truths.

What about a cheap, biodegradable upcycled material that lasts for decades screams wasteful to you?

Many of their products are sustainably sourced solid wood.

you obviously don't know about the company's sustainability processes.

At least learn how they source their material and what they do with their products at the end of their life cycle instead of pretending they're scary because... they use upcycled materials and are committed to net zero waste.

with so many actually wasteful and harmful companies, you are screaming at a windmill here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't agree with how he's been responding so far, but I've got some Ikea that's over 20 years and 10 house moves (three coast-to-coast) old. One piece has stood up really well.

In general, though, as the son of a cabinet maker's son with no ability whatsoever, I can easily see these pieces are sub-par. Beaver-chow with the cheap veneer throughout, so a drop of water spells eventually doom for them; or just thin, thin real wood.

My mom has downsized recently, and the only pieces of furniture she has now are the handed-down wooden desk and tables and whatnot you'd expect; but they're all 200 years old.

Ikea may last a decade or two, but they are cheap materials that we cannot reasonably expect to last much longer than 2 years or a house move. In that way, they're incredibly wasteful.

In the same sense that cheap fares have driven up the cost of real seats as luxuries and also cheapened the in-flight options and the entire experience of flying, Ikea's cheap goods have pushed the price of real equivalents up into the stratosphere, and has cheapened everything about acquiring furniture to keep and use for generations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I understand the abstract logical connection, but I'm unfamiliar with practical data and statistics on airfare increasing in cost as a result of lower priced tickets, or chairs being prohibitively expensive because Ikea makes chairs., and am interested in reading the data.

in my anecdotal experience, airfares are getting cheaper directly as a result of budget airlines, and I travel quite a bit by air.

I get all of my furniture second hand, so I really don't have any anecdote experience about for furniture haha.

I still don't see the connection between Ikea products using sustainably sourced wood and being wasteful, either.

using upcycled and sustainable materials is responsible and resourceful, rather than wasteful.