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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (4 children)

As much as I like shitting on the US, I think all of the comments here are forgetting that this wouldn’t be a 1v3. It would be a world war. There would be no winners.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yes, it would be cataclysmic. In the longer term though, I would argue that just about everyone on the planet would be a winner if the US empire were finally put down. You can’t really overstate how much of an impediment the US is to global human welfare and development.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

World's biggest terrorist organisation

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

okay, but the US is kiiiinda terrible, but if the US loses here then china/russia/iran win…

so its not like the US just goes away; the US is replaced by full autocratic

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Uhhhh. Are you aware of just how happy the people of China are with their government? Harvard conducted a 15-year research project and found 95% of China approved of their government. I would LOVE to live in a place where we all felt like the government was actually doing we wanted to.

And to call it autocratic is just ridiculous. Autocracy is a very specific form of government. Every state you mentioned is a literal Republic.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There would be an immense toll, but it would mean the destruction of the US, Israel, NATO, and neoliberalism generally, which I think means there is also room for optimism. If I may gesture towards Mark Twain, there are two Reigns of Terror here, and though we have reason to fear the latter one, it will not last as long or kill as many as the former one that it puts an end to. If there is not a nuclear holocaust, anyway

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If there is not a nuclear holocaust, anyway

That's a pretty fucking big "if"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It's pretty obvious it's not a big "if".

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

And that Palantir is an MIC contractor. They would have this outlook because it would keep them busy. The reality of such a scenario is far more unrealistic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

No winners is a fair outcome that I can live with.