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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

So the premise is that men are just there to be eye candy for women on this planet?

There are way way better ways to show off basket than inflicting that level of camel toe.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No, Edo isn't reversed gender roles. They're all about fitness and equality. The men and women act and dress alike.

The Edo were a free-spirited people, extremely welcoming and friendly and very open sexually with themselves and visitors. Edo women greeted men with a deep embrace, and offered themselves sexually to any man who would accept them; Edo men behaved in the same fashion with women. It was customary among the Edo to run from place to place instead of walking.

There was limited variation in Edo clothing, with most members of the species wearing the same type of costumes. However, only the leaders and the mediators wore necklaces including the Edo symbol. The mediators wore a grey and black costume that identified their responsibilities. Edo boys went about shirtless, but girls and adults of both sexes wore tops.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Edo

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which is why it was permissible to ignore the prime directive.

Meanwhile Picard waited until the last second to help this alien:

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which is why it was permissible to ignore the prime directive.

This episode pisses me off for so many reasons, but this is the biggest. They weren't just pre-warp, they were pre-space travel. They shouldn't have beamed down there in uniform and in sight. These are people that include a lady terrified of a computer because she thinks it's a god.

It is just a complete Prime Directive violation. They should simply not have been contacted.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The show is actually fairly consistent that once contact has been made on a planetary scale, Starfleet no longer needs to hide from them. Back in TOS, Kirk was sent to negotiate with the Organians even though they were thought to be an outright preindustrial society. The Organians had contact and were trading with other space-faring civilizations, like the Klingons, so there simply isn't a reason to stay away. The other parts of the Prime Directive that get applied to interstellar civilizations, like not messing with their government without invitation, still apply.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maybe, but why would the people have made contact if the computer controlled their civilization and wanted to keep them down there?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

We don't really get much about the Edo other than what's immediately relevant to the plot (and the skimpy outfits), so there are many possibilities. The Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, or even Ferengi may have been the first to make contact, and the Edo God doesn't seem to mind outsiders so long as they don't try to settle permanently. The Edo also could have been space-faring in the past and decided to scale back. Or maybe they are warp-capable and very few care enough to leave the planet.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Sorry, it really looked and played too much like the scenario in Roddenberry’s 2nd failed ‘Dylan Hunt’ pilot ‘Planet Earth’ (1974).

Roddenberry never left any idea unrecycled, but John Saxon looked better as eye candy.

Diana Muldaur looked better in the X-cross get-up too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Suddenly, I realize who should have been cast as the lead in Zardos.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Careful. If stillpaisleycat sees this post they are going to start claiming that the TNG episode Justice is a ripoff of Zardoz too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

?? Planet Earth featured John Saxon entering an Amazon (dominant female) culture.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Earth_(film)

The TNG Edo plot was completely different with absolutely nothing in common.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was a recycle two—for-one: The costuming overlapped on that one, the plot recycling was saved for the equally eye-rolling ‘Angel One’ where

In this episode, an away team visits a world dominated by women to search for survivors of a downed freighter, while the crew of the Enterprise suffer from the effects of a debilitating virus.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes Angel One is similar to Planet Earth. But there is absolutely nothing in common between Planet Earth and the TNG episode Justice.

It isn't an Amazon world controlled by women. The men aren't drugged. There's no woman vs woman battle to claim the protagonist. There's no overcoming drug to allow men to fight against invaders.

Justice is about Wesley Crusher stepping on grass and getting the death sentence. It's a legal trial style episode where Picard argues for Wesley's life against a god like race that oversees the Edo.

The TOS episode What Little Girls are made Of also features and actress where the top crosses over. A crisscross overlaid fabric blouse does not mean the TOS epsisode has anthing to do with Planet Earth 1974.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The costuming is from the same design language and it was lame for the 1980s if passable in the 70s.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

As I also pointed out it was also used in the 1960's. A crossover blouse has nothing to do with your claim that they were the same story. The costumes don't even look similar.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

The masculine for crotch cleavage is not camel toe, but rather moose knuckle.