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Switched to GrapheneOS today (grapheneos.org)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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After using LineageOS for long time, I have finally moved to GrapheneOS. I use a lot of banking and financial apps which I never felt comfortable using on LineageOS due to lack of proper sandboxing, unlocked bootloader etc.

GrapheneOS works flawlessly just like Android. You don't even notice there's hardening underneath. Also it protects from Google's evil location tracking using WiFi/Bluetooth or even when the Location is turned off. I don't understand how people in general are comfortable with Google tracking all the time. You can use Google Play and Play Services in a sandbox that works just like regular installation, but without deep tracking.

If you haven't tried GrapheneOS, try it. You won't go back to regular Android.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I have more considerations than security, like a headphone jack and other details. But you have my upvote anyways, because you make a lot of sense. I agree with you. 🏅

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I do agree that the lack of a headphone jack absolutely kills me. It's a reason I haven't pulled the trigger either way on a new phone yet. On the one hand, I want a secure degoogled phone that maintains a lot of functionality with GOS. On the other, I want a modern phone with a headphone jack a la Sony. I go back and forth constantly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

For what its worth, my Sony Xperia 1 VI didn't come with a lot of google apps and it was easy enough to get rid of those. Obviously play services and some other stuff remain, so it's not a degoogled phone, but it's alright. Sony asks for some analytics stuff, but that's all very easy to deny.

Sony also makes it very easy to root, unlock and flash your phone, with an official guide on how to do that. It's not as easy as installing graphene OS, but I'm sure somebody will built lineage or something for it at some point

Edit: Here are links to the official documentation, Sony makes it pretty easy to built and flash AOSP

https://developer.sony.com/open-source/aosp-on-xperia-open-devices/guides/aosp-build-instructions/build-aosp-android-14/

https://developer.sony.com/open-source/aosp-on-xperia-open-devices/get-started/unlock-bootloader/how-to-unlock-bootloader/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

This is great info, thank you so much! That definitely gives me more things to consider

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's fair, and the reasons why someone buys a phone is a personal choice.

I would suggest with things like a headphone jack that, while its annoying to buy an adapter (usb-c to headphone) it may be worth the cost vs sacrificing something like hardware security.

Sadly a lot of the time consumers are forced to choose between security and privacy or convenience.