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On X, political commentator Ed Krassenstein, a frequent Trump critic, commented on the change of opinion about polling numbers among the former president's supporters.

"MAGA is breaking down. They are back to calling the polls fake just because they don't reflect what they want them to say," Krassenstein wrote. "It's funny how they touted the polls when Trump was up."

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[–] [email protected] 168 points 3 months ago (7 children)

He's preparing his base for another January 6th.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Has been for 4 years now. It's so frustrating to watch play out in front of our eyes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

When he picked JD Vance he thought for sure he was going to win and almost certainly would have.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Even when he wins, he still casts doubt on the system. Just look at his whining about Hillary in 2017.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yup. For the last few months it's been nothing but "Biden is old and loves open borders," but when Kamala starts to pull ahead it's, "be on the lookout for runaway fraud".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, we should have been revving up the fraud engine when Biden was decaying in front of our eyes on national television. Setting it up only after we switch to a young active candidate who gives people hope for a change seems kind of unnecessary.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

hopi g this time with an American in the white house anyone approaching the capitol will be met with 20mm cannonfire.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Honest question, as a non-American.

Surely any and all secret services will be fully prepared this time, and if some MAGA nutjobs were to try it would result in an absolute massacre, right?

Would they be dumb enough to try? I know that you're all armed to the teeth, but the US Army and Secret Service versus a bunch of cousin-fucking redneck bois is likely to end up in the former winning pretty handily.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

See, you'd think. But unfortunately, as an old song once put it: some of those who work forces are the same who burn crosses

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I think you're right. The last one only kinda almost worked bc bloated mussolini was calling the shots behind deployment of security forces like the national guard. Next time meal team 6 won't just be waltzing past an overwhelmed few capitol police.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Remember that fascists think of their enemy as being both weak and strong at the same time. This gives them a blind spot where they're incapable of weighing their enemy's true strength.

They'll try, but they're not as strong as they think they are. The number of Trump voters actually willing to get violent isn't very big. Could get very bloody in a short period of time, but they'll ultimately lose.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I think the bigger issue this time is the potential for distributing the violence to smaller markets, so to speak - polling places, county clerk's offices, secretaries of state, even state houses when they vote to certify their state results.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

He’s preparing his base for another January 6th.

Let's bring stochastic terrorism back into the parlance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's too sloppy. They're gonna go for thing where it goes to, I forget if it was a house of reps vote or where each state gets a singular vote.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The electoral system? (Each state is supposed to get a number of votes based on their population)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If the election is contested, then there are "backup" protocols that are different than than the normal electoral college. I don't recall if the "backup" protocol was a simple vote in the House of Representatives, or that each state gets a single vote. Trump kinda tried last time but didn't have the support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If a states count is contested, it's voted on by the house on if the count goes back to the state and redone. If the numbers aren't ratified by the deadline, the backup is the chain of succession until it is ratified. This means that the house speaker is acting president until they finalize the winner.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I stopped following the musical chairs for my own mental health. Is that who was settled on?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, current GOP speaker of the house. He's a nutjob but has been reaching across to the Dems so the maga Reps don't get to shut everything down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

So while a nut job, his number one goal isn't to own the libs and shut down the gov. Small favors

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No he's not. They won't need to storm the capitol because he will already have stolen the votes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

A lot harder to steal the votes when you're not already sitting in the oval office