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[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/sports/two-disqualified-failing-meet-eligibility-criteria-world-champs-2023-03-26/

Imane Khelif was disqualified for not meeting gender criteria from world championship.

Edit to all: I am not against LGBT+ or anything. I just post news, take what you want.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

By already disqualified IBA which was disqualified for corruption and pro Russia slant.

They claim they have evidence, but never provide it, they disqualified her after she beat a Russian boxer. Why didn't they disqualify her earlier fight after she won against the Nigerian (IIRC) boxer.

Not to mention 9 fights she lost to other women.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Publishing the evidence would violate the athlete's privacy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

AFAIK the athlete never got any results either.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What evidence do you want to see? A full report on her hormone levels? A photo of her genitals?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Why did the IOC, which has been organising boxing at the Olympics since 2019, come to the opposite conclusion of the IBA when considering Khelif's participation?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

She was suspended for naturally high testosterone levels by the IBA, a governing body that has since itself been suspended and had it’s recognition revoked due to corruption scandals. (Imagine what it takes for the famously corrupt IOC to say, “No, that’s too corrupt.”) No matter how you want to define gender, biological sex, identity, etc., she’s a woman. She’s just a freak athlete and that’s what the Olympics are about. No one would be all up in arms if her hands had a naturally high score on the Mohs scale of mineral hardness. You’d put on your gloves and catch her topaz-hard hands.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

While it may be true that IBA is corrupt, let's not use the logical reasoning that IOC's reputation for corruption adds more credibility to their claim. Imagine if Trump called someone corrupt, would his own corrupt reputation leads you to believe his accusation more? I don't believe so.

We should avoid using bad logic to support a correct opinion because it only damages the perception of your other arguments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s not necessarily bad logic. If a regular at a dive bar says someone drinks too much, it’s probably a sign that person drinks way too much. If a college kid tells you an all-you-can-eat buffet sucks, it’s probably not secretly delicious.

Trump (like his diaper) is always full of shit so him calling someone corrupt wouldn’t mean anything. It’s not about logic; it’s about whether the narrator is reliable or not.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is the IOC a reliable narrator, then? Being a corrupt organization would put them in the category of being unreliable to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are no reliable narrators. This is wisdom, not logic, but you have to find your own truth. Even particles have Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle. There’s always uncertainty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Then what's the point of your previous comment talking about the narrator being reliable or not? Sounds like you just had no actual point and wants to use inconsistent logic whenever you want by calling it wisdom.

All I'm saying is that a corrupt individual is not a reliable narrator, therefore it's illogical to use their corruptness as proof of their reliability at calling out corruption. Your counter examples are not relevant because their qualities does not directly make their statements unreliable.

And again, I'm not calling out the truthness in this matter, since I also believe the IBA is corrupt, but I'm calling out your use of bad logic to support that position. I'm sure if you actually read my comments properly you'd understood that I never questioned the truth in your statement about IBA, only one of the logical reasoning you used.