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Why was Noah Lyles allowed to run with Covid at the Olympics and will he race again?
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 10 Aug 2024
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because it's fucking ridiculous to treat covid like we do the common cold. obviously.
Oh I understand you feel that way, and that’s fine. But there are rules at the Olympics and these are the rules.
Not everyone feels that is so clearly ridiculous. As I said, most places on earth treat it as the common cold nowadays.
you are an idiot and you're not worth my time, plague rat.
I see why his take on this is the antipod of yours, but you clearly won't achieve anything by so easily shifting to aggression and leaving the discussion on a tantrum.
I’m sorry you feel that way and lack the ability to disagree and discuss amicably.
don't mistake you being worthless for my lack of ability. you are just obviously not capable of learning and i am not a patient woman
go guzzle a septic tank
What are you trying to teach that makes you think I’m incapable of learning? I’m just sitting here providing info on IOC rules.
You're just being an annoying pedant and rules fetishist. We are saying that it is ridiculous to treat it as a common cold go fuck off back to reddit you civility obsessed debate pervert.
If it is ridiculous, why is most of the world behaving that way? I’m genuinely confused on the night and day difference between this thread and the world around me.
Because the churn of propaganda convincing people to go to work and risk their health for the profits of capitalists. Jfc children can understand this. You're just trolling.
I’m not trolling. I’m just confused it seems. I feel like I walked into the twilight zone.
Are you suggesting that everyone needs to be staying home and not working? If everyone doesn’t go to work, how will people survive (food, water, climate control)?
No but it should be treated as seriously as it is. Mask mandates, enforced distancing, not forcing people that could easily work from home to come be under the watchful eye of some middle management sicko, etc.
Your arguments sound like bad faith and therefore I still stand by calling you a troll.
I don't have the time or patience to deal with someone that deliberately is this ignorant/making up a strawman to satisfy your smug sense of liberal superiority.
Im being very genuine. Thanks for your time.
okay. look. you are either saying you don't understand how something that's normalized can be bad or you're just so goddamn dense that you're about to rip spacetime a new asshole. racism is normalized but it's bad. sexism is normalized but it's bad. the united states massacring foreign civilians for their country's resources is normalized but bad. and yes, covid is now also - say it with me - normalized, but still bad.
christ alive.
If racism or sexism is normal or accepted where you are, we are truly in different worlds.
That aside, look, it’s clear that your walkway in life is vastly different than mine right now and I feel that disputing each others norms is fruitless and impossible.
I appreciate your perspective.
Tell me you're a cis white man without telling me.
rocking up to the she/her convention in my "sexism isn't real" t-shirt, wondering why i'm not making any friends
There are nazi riots all over the news in england dumbshit
we very literally are not. you just don't notice these things because they plainly don't impact you. you don't care because it's not your problem. you are exactly as much an impediment to a better world as any given nazi, and i wish you the same fate i wish them.
Loser hall monitor behavior,
Go fuck yourself, plague rat
I looked a bit more into it. The WHO has worked closely with the IOC and IOC President says “It is being treated like flu now, so there is no obligation for any special measures or notifications.”.
So Noah did nothing wrong to not report it. There is no reporting rule.
Also found this info:
This all reflects my reality where I haven’t heard about or been affected by COVID for years now.
I’m just referring to the experts on this science. I’m not making shit up or reading trash conservative anti science bullshit. I’m genuinely curious about why others feel so strongly against the current WHO position.
Did it suddenly stop having long term damage to the immune and cardiovascular system or did capital decide it was time for everyone to get back to work?
Sorry you haven't been paying attention in you comfortable bubble, but covid never stopped being an issue
https://www.cdc.gov/ncird/whats-new/covid-19-can-surge-throughout-the-year.html
https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/news/2024/study-suggests-reinfections-virus-causes-covid-19-likely-have-similar-severity-original
I’m pointing out what the rules are/were at the Olympics, and some background on why athletes are not in “trouble” for not mentioning they have an illness. The World Health Organization worked with the ioc to make rules they felt was safe. Was it capitalism driven to make money, or is it simply because it makes no sense to live in bubble wrap forever, I don’t know!
I guess I see it as much of a danger as anything else in life at this point, and it feels as if most people agree.
I’m not denying it exists. It just scientifically seems to be less significant than most other things. I think it is 1.5% of deaths now per some quick CDC research. That’s way less than an average flu season. What’s the stats on long COVID? Is that happening to a significantly relevant amount of people? Genuinely curious. Not baiting or anything.
I don’t “live in a bubble”. I’m just an average dude. I travel a lot half the year in USA and EU and chill in remote areas all winter. I understand my experience isn’t everyone’s and I value your insight.
Shit like this is why you're getting so much flack. It's so fucking patronizing it makes me only want to tell you to fuck off
Wearing a mask, social distancing, and regularly washing your hands isn't living in bubble wrap. Having basic concern for your fellow man isn't living in bubble wrap.
I know multiple people with long covid. I know even more who are immunocompromised who are forced into hermitude because people like you cannot fathom to understand the experience of living a life that isn't yours and how actions completely out of your control can completely destroy your life. Please do some soul searching and find a shred of empathy.
I'm sure the over 4000 families in the past 3 months who had someone die from covid feel similarly to you, that their loved one was not statistically significant and that it's for the best that they're dead so people like you don't have to live in bubble wrap
I lost an uncle and a grandmother to COVID. My heart goes out to all those with loved ones dying from this and all causes.
I’m fine with some rules about basic hygiene and common sense. The ioc doesn’t have those. Why? I’m not some wild antivaxxer out here spouting shit. I’m in here defending this Olympian who did nothing wrong in my opinion.
And as I understand it, yall will just call me names like fascist and plague rat and told to fuck off - Because I simply feel even the slightest differently and have chosen to question this Olympian being under fire.
It's all about "follow the science" until it doesn't align with their opinion. WHO actions are sometimes questionable and the intentions are not always quite clear, but it's the same source of information that was used before, when covid was all around.
Hmmm did the science change or did the engine of capital decide it couldn't afford to have people treat covid in the way it should be. How is advocating for wearing a mask now in the midst of these regular waves no longer following science
"My heart goes out to the people who have had family members die, but I'm going to call people who want to do something about it extremists"
Please kindly fuck off
Dont mistake my realism with lack of compassion.
No one is forcing you to act this way. Your lack of compassion is evident in your inability or lack of desire to criticize those guidelines which directly result in the death and disablement of thousand a month
What you're doing isn't realism, dipshit, it's denialism.
I think it was less "enlightening" and more just you reaffirming that you couldn't be bothered. You don't believe masks are needed for people with an infectious illness? You don't think someone that is sick should stay-at-home?
"I lost an uncle and a grandmother to COVID", kinda feel bad for them that all you think of it now is "most places on earth treat it as the common cold nowadays." How many members in your family have you lost to the common cold so far in the past few years?
"This all reflects my reality where I haven’t heard about or been affected by COVID for years now."
"I’m just an average dude (LOL). I travel a lot half the year in USA and EU and chill in remote areas all winter." Huh, wonder why your arguments sound like anti-covid mandates. Your dog whistles of "Are you suggesting that everyone needs to be staying home and not working? If everyone doesn’t go to work, how will people survive (food, water, climate control)?" are pure trolling. Plenty of people worked during the pandemic and only quarantined when necessary, you know, common sense. People might be harsh towards you on here but you're definitely deserving of it with your responses.
Im a big fan of masks and staying home when sick. Always have been. My whole life. Covid included.
You’re way off base here.
The person suggested that everyone should be staying home and I was genuinely curious how they thought the world would run if no one worked.
You’ve got me labeled and nothing I can say will help you hear my position and discuss in good faith so this can just stop now.
The WHO and IOC have rules. Athletes aren’t breaking the rules.
Nah, you read everyone should be staying at home. Person had a following qualifier that you ignored.
"I didn’t realize there were covid extremists still thinking masks and stay-at-home orders are needed."
"Im a big fan of masks and staying home when sick. Always have been. My whole life. Covid included."
You're all over the place. How am I suppose to follow along with your extremes that contradict each other? This must be a "we should follow common sense, but don't have common sense regulations in place" argument I suppose.