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Lol moment to moment anti-shilling and they are too lazy to delete comments before they switch to the next disinformation talking point?
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Which part is the disinformation? I think "genocide Joe" is a bit over the top, but Biden has clearly not pushed back on the Palestinian genocide as hard as the left (reasonably) wants. As for Biden's age, I think that's been pretty well vindicated now.
I don't dispute that the right disingenuously jumps on leftist issues, but I also think we need to grapple with the fact that the Democratic establishment has continuously chosen to make the party vulnerable to such attacks. Democrats should suck less than they do, not just less than Republicans.
The "GenocideJoe" rhetoric sort of ignores the fact that it would be even worse with Trump.
Itd be more accurate to go with "NotAsMuchGenocideJoe" vs "MaximumGenocideTrump"
Democrats should suck less than they do, not just less than Republicans.
While Trump is personally worse on this and so many other issues, Biden's complete failure to contain Israel means that the results would probably be nearly identical.
There's no indication Trump could be worse on Gaza. That's something said by people who haven't faced the reality of what's actually happening there.
I'm willing to vote for and encourage others to vote for Harris. Biden is still Genocide Joe to me, there's just no better nickname that reflects the true horror of what he helped enable.
I think zionist bots are in damage control right now same as the Rusdian/Chinese bots. Trying to make it seem like the pressure that led to Biden stepping down wasn't a referendum on Biden's out of control zionism.
And then there are people trying to square the reality that they have been dogmatically and aggressively defending a genocide enabler when they should've been calling for him to step down with everyone else. People are uncomfortable confronting what that means about them as people.
You could probably do with some light reading on Trump and Palestine. He'd let them bomb everything
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-israel-gaza-finish-problem-rcna141905
Right, I'm not saying Trump is pro-palestine, I'm saying Biden placed exactly 0 limits on Israel, so they're doing exactly as they wish (same as they'd do under Trump).
I think what's revealing about you zionist guys is that you're not making the same "not as bad on Israel" when it comes to Biden and Harris. If Biden is left of Trump on Israel (he's not, but assuming your claim is true) then Harris is even further left of Biden.
You would think that having someone who polls better, who is to the left of Biden on Israel, would be good. Instead you're still trying to do damage control for a guy who is no longer going to be in power and who has literally done nothing but give them more bombs and aid, same as Trump would.
Trump has said he will send even more weapons and armaments to Israel to finish off Palestine. He is literally saying "I am going to enable more genocide than Biden."
Right, but they literally already have billions in weapons and bombs from Biden. If you pour more water into an already overflowing bucket the bucket doesn't become more full. People need to actually look at what's happening in Gaza, not just what they hear on NPR or MSNBC.
I think people are just unwilling to admit that the moral pressure against Biden was the right play from the start, and that it worked. Biden's not even going to be in office but people still need to try to justify to themselves how just a few weeks ago they were doing everything they could to try and shut down criticisms of Biden's genocide complicity.
People don't want to admit they were wrong on this because they know what it means morally -- that their place in history would be the same as the german citizens who stood by and made excuses for themselves during WWII.
Worse would be "actively helping shell the region". And I could imagine Trump would sign off on indiscriminate drone strikes without even a first thought.
They don't need our help shelling the region, what are you talking about? Israel doesn't need a signature to continue indiscriminate dronestrikes, they are doing that right now. They've cut off foid and water, they've destroyed all the hospitals and schools, they're bombing the save zones, bulldozing cemetaries, literally shooting people indiscriminately.
I really get the impression you don't actually understand what's going on in Gaza. There is no "moderating hand" from Biden, and he's given them everything they want already.
Most people don't bother to check everyone's past comments. So, it's not worth their time, really. They would probably just make a new account over deleting old ones.