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Huh. Call me provincial, but I had no idea that sovereign citizens existed outside of America. The idea of a Cypriot sovcit never occurred to me.
In Australia I knew I guy who was a SovCit and he would do stupid things like quote the bill of rights. We'd say "what bill of rights?" Australia doesn't have one. All his info came from the US and he just followed it with realising none of it was relevant in a different country.
To be fair pretty much all the US sovcit stuff isn't relevant or applicable in the US either
True. But things like the UCC are real laws. Sovcits just hilariously misinterpret them. There is no such law in other countries. Plus sovcit stuff is based on common law. It makes even less sense in civil law jurisdictions.
I did expect Australian and British sovcits, but didn't expect Greek ones.
I didn't expect Spanish SovCits...
No-one expects The Spanish SovCit!
I don't know man. Idiots are everywhere.
None of it is relevant in the USA either, it’s all bullshit.
Were they one of the lost idiots waving a Trump flag during the Victoria lockdown protests? I still cringe to this day.
Fortunately I haven't bothered keeping up with him for many years, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was doing that. And protesting vaccinations too probably.
There is a similar movement to SovCits that is at least properly adapted to other countries (specifically the Commonwealth and Ireland's) laws called "Freeman on the Land."
We call them "autonomous" in the Netherlands, and Germany has "imperial citizens".
Everywhere has its own flavour of these morons thanks to the Internet. And they often literally copy the talking points, and occasionally even laws.
Pretty sure they're called "wappies" in the Netherlands
Well, Autonomen are a flavour of Wappies :P
We have a few so-called sovereign citizens in the UK.
And ONE actual sovereign citizen.
Alas US stupidity leaks.
Here in Australia
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-08/nsw-magistrates-report-sharp-rise-in-sovereign-citizen-cases/102285772
https://theconversation.com/living-people-who-are-the-sovereign-citizens-or-sovcits-and-why-do-they-believe-they-have-immunity-from-the-law-143438
in general, things do exist out of the U.S, its just people in the U.S do it more publicly. Its like racism, and how some people think U.S is the most racist due to media and social media, its actually very far from that on the general scale of things when compared to other countries.
It's nice to know America doesn't have ALL the idiots
They have been identified in 26 countries.
the internet was a mistake
It is effectively a memetic virus, and there's no SCP foundation to implement quarantine procedures...
The anti-vax conspiracy crowd in Britain is heavily SovCit. They seem to think the magna Carta means they can be selfish arseholes