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Tenacious D’s Newcastle show postponed after comment about Trump assassination attempt
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I'm sure all the fans that wanted to go to the show will be very thankful to the senator for cancelling the show at the last minute for political reasons. Free speech must not be allowed in Australia
The senator didn’t cancel the show, they don’t have that sort of authority.
Obviously the senator didn't literally cancel the show. They just made it happen by creating fake outrage.
He's the only senator for his party UAP, no one gives a shit about him.
Shit the party he represents doesn't even actually exist as they de-registered in 2022.
He's jumping on outrage to get his name printed in a paper, it doesn't mean people actually do or care what he says
Are you claiming that he didn't help create or spread this outrage? Even if that was true, which it's not, why would it matter when the article that this post is about points to him directly? Not sure why you're so adamantly making this point. What's your goal?
Yes he did not help create this outrage, as for spreading it, no more than any of the other idiots who probably shared something on social media. This nobody is not as influential as you seem to think he is.
As for why the media is mentioning it? Because making up drama sells.
My goal is to point out that they cancelled the tour themselves. And to fix your misconception about how important this politician is. This whole story would have played out exactly the same with or without Babet, in fact many news articles on this don't even mention him.
Ok gotcha. He's officially not very important!
Free speech isn't a constitutional right in Australia, or in most places. Conservative voices have been blocked from Australia before. In 2019 it was that Milo guy, and I think Lauren Southern was banned from the UK?
https://humanrights.gov.au/our-work/rights-and-freedoms/freedom-information-opinion-and-expression
I am not very well versed in Australian law, but this indicates to me that free speech is indeed protected in Australia.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_Southern
She's a far-right racist conspiracy theorist nutjob who was denied entry into the UK for spewing hatred. Her right to express herself ends where other people's rights for freedom, health and safety begin.
It aims to, but it is not a right.
See the two exclusions on the page you linked.
blocked when...
In this case, public order may be considered valid, although my personal view is that it wasn't.
In Australia, humour has a long history of bad taste, but a longer history of religious repression through law. Think 1960s America - that describes much of Australian rural culture, with extra bad language. (Although NSW was a lot more tolerant when I travelled around the country)
In the UK, free speech is not possible either. See D-notices, and later super-injunctions to stop media and individuals reporting on facts.
Please provide examples.
Sure, although google does the heavy lifting as I've given the strings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Notice
https://www.studysmarter.co.uk/explanations/law/civil-law/super-injunction/
So you can't just insult someone, that's not bad
That's about defamation and privacy, we have the same law in America. The First Amendment doesn't protect defamatory speech or speech that infringes on recognized privacy rights, such as the right to self publicity, the right to be free of misappropriation of name or likeness, etc.
Hoping a shooter would have killed someone, even Trump, is - not even borderline - hate speech, I don't get it. Jack is right. And US laws mean nothing outside US
"Hate speech" isn't a ban on being able to vocally hate individual people.
Not that I think the concert should have been cancelled. . .but isn't asking for someone to be killed "spewing hatred"? Isn't asking for them to actually be shot infringing on their "health and safety." This is "if the shoe is on the other foot" example for me, it doesn't appear that their ban was unjustified, or her ban was unjustified. Although, it probably doesn't even really count because we are talking about two different countries here.
Nope, see others commenting below.
And my point was, you can't be surprised that conservatives turn around and do what the left does to them when they have the chance to. That's why I was so against Dems ousting Trump supporters from their jobs, because I knew they would turn around and do the same if/when they had the chance.
It's why we have to be very careful about any laws we pass when Dems are in power. Power will always swing back to Republicans at some point, and you're fucking crazy if you think they're not going to use those same laws to repress their political opponents