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The motive behind Jovanovic's actions was reportedly her fear that motherhood would jeopardise her professional career as a lawyer for a prestigious car brand.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (5 children)

We need to make it so women don't have to feel this way..I thought Germany was fairly progressive like that, but obviously not enough.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

I mean sure but I think there's a few extra steps between "feeling" this way and fucking doing it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can give someone access to all the help they need, but if they don't seek it out, there's not much you can do about it. It sounds like post partum depression may have played a role, that is real, but you can't force someone into treatment.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

She threw the baby off the window 10 minutes after giving birth.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I hope you'll agree with me that there are alternatives before throwing your newborn baby off the window as if it was a fucking napkin.

Even abandoning it in front of a church is more humane than what this bitch did.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Don't know this lady's story. But post natal psychosis is a real tragic thing that can happen. This isnt the action of someone possessing their faculties.

Why when abortion is available would you carry to term -and then so impulsively act? If for whatever reason she didn't want the baby and couldn't get the abortion, she had months to come up with a better plan than 'throw it out a window'. Either she was undiagnosed with something the whole time, or the birth triggered a psychological episode imo.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Who throws napkins out the window?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Strictly speaking it is not as bad as throwing a baby out of one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

No amount of progressivism can stop people from getting mental illnesses.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Interesting take. I wonder if the headline was:

"New Father and former Porsche Executive Throws Newborn Off Balcony"

Your first thoughts would be how the system failed him and that Germany needs to do more to support fathers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

It is a bit depressing how many guys in this thread don't understand what pregnancy and childbirth can do to someone. Side effects may include: suicidal and homicidal urges. Google Postpartum Psychosis and Postpartum Depression.

Everyone is asking but why didn't she act in a sane way and give it up for adoption? Well, there are good odds she needed something prescribed to her to allow her to be sane. Pregnant people's bodies are undergoing major chemical changes, labor opens the floodgates. Which is why it is very important to make it easy and stigma free to let everyone out of the queue who does not want to ride the ride, and make healthcare accessible to those that do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Their point is to call out the sexist take in feigning sympathy for a child murderer when we all know the world wouldn’t do that shit if it was a man.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just brainless strawman shit then.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Calling out sexism in society isn't strawmaning.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lmfao when men have to go through childbirth and have post partum depression then you'll have a point.

Until then, have fun winning arguments you made up in the shower you goof.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Men can go through those things.

And what about women who never have children?

What a terrible argument you’ve presented.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Men can go through those things.

Hwhat

And what about women who never have children?

Lol What about them? How does that affect our discussion of mothers going through post partum??

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Hwhat

Trans men exist.

lol What about them?

We were talking about sexism. You seemed to imply it only mattered for women who had given birth or suffered PPD.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

You aren't calling out sexism, you are just inventing situations to get angry about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Pretty sure it's "fuck feminism". I've seen this plenty of times before.