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Time to purge AOC and Bernie for being insufficiently pure! (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This is Left Praxis, LIBERALS would never understand the 4d chess involved in how Trump winning helps Palestine and American minorities.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s not like Hitler was the first person to think up anti-semetism.

And if you tried to play apologist for Hitler by trying to make an equivalence between him and all prior antisemites, it would sound about the same as this does.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have you never heard of antisemitic pogroms?Hitler had technological advances for his genocide, but he was far from the first.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You really just flit from idea to idea, don't you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am responding to your exact message. You said

And if you tried to play apologist for Hitler by trying to make an equivalence between him and all prior antisemites, it would sound about the same as this does.

And I said:

Have you never heard of antisemitic pogroms?Hitler had technological advances for his genocide, but he was far from the first.

If you think that's a non-sequitor, that explains a lot of your attempts at discussion.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tell me more about how previous antisemitic pogroms and the Holocaust were equivalent.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They just didn't have the technology to enact something on the scale of the Holocaust, but the genocidal intent was the same. Not to mention the hundreds of years of legal subjugation and regular scapegoating. I don't see why you think it's useful for you to pretend that Republican extremeism is new, if anything this is the latest iteration of an ongoing plan. One could definitely argue that it's urgent to outvote Trump, and acknowledge his place in the context of history. What you are doing is intellectually dishonest.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yep, definitely, it's just the scale of the Holocaust that's exceptional. /s

I think we're finished here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Did you really not understand what I was saying? Do you think anti-semetism was not broadly acceptable before the Holocaust? Hitler got his ideas from somewhere. The violence during the Holocaust was tolerated for a reason. Anti-semetic officials in the United States government enabled the Holocaust to continue for longer than it could have, had action been taken.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_and_the_Holocaust

In January 1944, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury Josiah E. DuBois Jr. authored a report detailing how certain officials within the Department of State had worked to prevent assistance to Jewish refugees and obscure information about the Holocaust. In response, President Roosevelt created the War Refugee Board as an independent agency to help Jewish refugees

I don't see how it benefits you to deny history. We exist in the context, etc etc