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Why haven't we figured out monetisation for peertube? (programming.dev)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The only real attempt at monetisation that I've seen is https://beetoons.tv/, but they use their own crypto - making it like Odysee. Why is that?

Edit: Please, before you answer consider this monetisation doesn't mean ads!

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago (15 children)

A few reasons:

The userbase on the Fediverse is not big enough to support a donation-based economy.
The userbase on the Fediverse is not big enough to support an ad-based economy. Even if by some magical powers we got an ethical ad network working here (which didn't track users and focused solely on paying people by the opportunity of broadcasting their inventory) there wouldn't be enough eyeballs to attract advertisers.
The userbase is still anti-business.
For all its faults, Youtube is hands-down is the platform that pay the most to content creators.
Content creators are not willing to spend their time building out audiences on new platforms. Principles be damned, they will just go where the money is.

I've added support for crowdfunding to Communick earlier this year, and even people who are active on the Fediverse and have a vested interest in having monetization alternatives turned it down. This is why all we see are these completely fringe ideas that can only appeal for the get-rich-quick crowd.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (8 children)

The userbase is still anti-business.

And a significant part will remain so. This should be a haven from capitalist/corporate platforms, not a parallel market.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

That's Western fediverse.

Fediverse instance in Asia often run ads or other kind of monetisation. Like the second biggest instance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Could you elaborate, please. I'm genuinely interested

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Misskey, which is Japanese-made ActivityPub-enabled social media software, has option to enable ads natively for instance admin.

In most cases, the ads are just non-tracking community ads, like promoting YouTube channel, indie animation, pop-up cafe event, or server hosting service. Usually the ads are matched to instance theme.

People realize that running instances needs money and letting the instance admin to make living from it is acceptable. Having monthly patron oftentimes not enough.

This is different case and country. There are plenty of dead fedi instance from Southeast Asia because the donation itself is not enough as the culture of donation is not the same as Western countries. Most people will just simply use free social media and thinking ads are good tradeoff.