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I’ll take the downvotes. It’s both obviously. PayPal is dope and still going strong, Tesla single handedly made the electric car viable, spaceX brought reusable rockets a thing and internet connectivity to rural communities (me included).
I used to be a fanboy but now loathe the guy. It’s ok to hate but don’t downplay his contribution to society.
Paypal is not from Musk, and he was eventually ousted when he tried to rebrand it to X.
Tesla is also not of his own. He pretty much just bought an already working company.
I have no idea about Space X, but Paypal and Tesla are absolutely not from Elon Musk. He just happened to cross roads with those companies and invest his emerald money in those.
If he contributed to those companies, it's via money, not ideas and intellect.
SpaceX's reusable rockets is from SpaceX if I understand it correctly but...
Obviously musk didn't build the rocket or planned the rocket but that is not the point.
Nasa had plans for reusable rockets but for the longest time, the financial risk of development was higher than the value of reusable rockets. SpaceX didn't care about the financial risk because they needed thousands of satellites for the most brain dead idea ever, starlink and because Elon is bad with money (Twitter...)
So SpaceX was "successful" because they were crazy enough to run 2 extremely dangerous projects.
Also don't forget government funds
I already replied and I'm sorry if seem to insist but I want to add on the subject and myth of "Elon Musk being a genius" and "contributing to society", and went over the part about internet, and electric cars in general.
I'm glad you can have internet in a rural area, really. However, doing it via a constellation of satellites instead of having a robust ground network is posing certain issues for the future.
Whole article here
So as much as this could be useful, it's also polluting the skies at a very rapid rate, and we're not sure about the future consequences of it. And depending on where you live, fast and reliable internet in rural areas is often the result of other capitalistic companies not deeming those places profitable enough, and poor governmental regulations on internet as an essential service. We shouldn't have to launch thousands of satellites in the air for this. But because it's more profitable this way...
As for electric cars. Call me cynical, and anti car, which I am, but I don't think the goal is to be ecological. Not anymore. Maybe when the company started with their three first CEOs. But it seems clear to me that Musk used the electric part as an ecological argument for greenwashing and selling to people that want to be "green".
Electric cars are not to save the climate. They are to save the automobile industry. They want to continue to sell cars because it makes a profit. Electric cars are still posing an ecological threat, are still polluting the environment because of particles from the tires, are still killing millions of animals and people every year, and are still wasting vast quantities of space for parking lots, which are often not permeable.
And of course, people in rural areas will need cars, even if I don't like them. But most people live in cities and Musk seem to be deliberately trying to delay public transit projects by announcing always soon-to-be-revolutionary technology like the Hyper Loop that has ben watered down multiple times to end up as a glorified LED lit electric car tunnel. Or the FSD which is not "full" "self" "driving".
Again, I don't like cars, don't like to drive, and don't have one. So I once was excited to see how the robotaxi part of things would evolve. But it's been many many years and it's obvious that I won't be going from a city to a rural area soon, using a robotaxi or a self-driving car. I still need a driver's licence for FSD. And robotaxis that do exist won't go very far outside a city.
Also, if Musk is all about the environment with Tesla, why is he now trying to court people on the other side of the political spectrum; the side that doesn't care about this?
Yes, electric cars are part of the solution, but cities need more public transit and micro mobility, not more cars (but electric and self-driving)! I'm sorry to say but it's a lot of greenwashing, empty promises, and personality cult. The contributions to society are, I think, exaggerated.
very brave stance, redditor
Hey, that’s ex-redditor to you.
He pretty famously was kicked from PayPal because he wanted to name it x.