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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Such is the consequence of living in a fact based reality as opposed to ones own delusions.

You get to believe a whole lot less because there is actually very little we have evidence for.

BUT!

If we have evidence for it, we should believe it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Direct evidence is a much higher bar than indirect evidence. There's a profusion of indirect evidence. Few of us have the capabilities to potentially find direct evidence. And even if we could, we would be expending far more effort researching than they would making new alt accounts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There’s a profusion of indirect evidence.

No there isnt.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There absolutely is. In fact, I just explained it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, you didn't.

You just leaned into your own, lack-of-evidence-based, conclusion that you had made previously.

That's not what it takes to live in a fact based reality.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago

It's an absolute necessity to do that to live in a fact based reality. People do not have the TIME to exhaustively research every single thing down to base facts. Not to mention the access, ability, finances, etc. Sometimes, hell most of the time, you have to synthesize information and make a judgement call.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Votes are public, you can see them if you go through a Kbin instance. You could sleuth this out yourself.

But personally, I'm a real person and I downvote you all the time because I think your takes are exactly the Blue MAGA style delusion this person is talking about. So you know where at least one of them is coming from.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Blue MAGA

It's so easy to spot you guys out because you're too stupid to make your own arguments so you have to use talking points given to you by your masters. And this one is a good one, to be fair. But you inevitably over-use the terms / talking points so you become super obvious.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I found the term embarrassing right up until people here started talking about how the polls were fake, the media were the enemy, and everyone arguing against them were Russian trolls or secret MAGA.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

Like most right wing talking points, we (liberals) came up with it, in this case to mock tankies who were doing their best to help Trump get elected. And then the right wing propaganda machine stole it and twisted it, like "witch hunt" or "do your own research".