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This is Lemmy, liberal = right-wing fascist.
kids are so weird
I'm pretty sure it's more a distinction between people who focus on personal liberties and especially private property vs collectivism and socialism. Basically lots of people aren't for right wing fascism but still want to own private property, view their personal comforts more important than necessarily the needs of others (NIMBYs I think count here) etc.
This could be as simple as not liking property damage in protests, still preferring cars and trucks to public transportation, not liking high occupancy buildings in your area etc, at least that's how I've gleaned it as someone who doesn't use that kinda label myself.
I could be wrong, but that's how it feels to me. Closer to centrist or even just original form of libertarian, which some have labeled as being a bit more left wing than US libertarians.
Who decides what property damage to cause? If I disagree with someone can I smash their car windows?
I gave a deduced definition, not an endorsement. I will say that I view human rights and human life as more important than private property, but I am in no way encouraging people to harm or steal from someone they just don't like.
When someone asked me what I'd do about someone stealing an A/C unit off a house if I didn't have a gun, my answer was basically "I would not kill someone over an a/c unit." I stand by that statement.
Bang on
yes. thank you for a more nuanced viewpoint. i'd have to agree with your assessment, even if i don't agree with the principle.
for me, living in a society requires being part of a collective (in the modern world). i prefer many of the things that the 'true libertarian' prefers, but i don't expect society to provide my selfish desires. that's why i choose rural over urban. but the suburbs are part of am urban landscape, so if someone wants to live that NIMBY life, that need to make sure their backyard is far away from the other backyards. i realize that is getting harder and harder to do, which is why i dream of a secular society where we can practice a humanitarian from of birth control, because ultimately, a healthy life just isn't possible when we are crowded into tight spaces. humans need room to breathe and express themselves.
It's like words don't have meaning anymore..