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The problem is that the debate doesn’t really change much… except for low information and undecided voters. They don’t know what Trump is spewing and whether it’s a lie or not. When he makes up wild claims that Biden is unanimously declared worst president in history, they don’t know that’s a lie, or that Trump is lying about capping the price of insulin or the existence of 9 month elective abortions, etc. Trump’s confident lies actually win over a lot of undecided people who don’t do any research into the topic.
This is exactly how he got elected in 2016. All he does is lie and attack and people believe him. If the moderators pushed him even slightly on his lies instead of allowing him to spew whatever bullshit he wanted for two minutes, the night would have gone much differently. Instead, Joe had to spend half of his time refuting clear lies instead of talking about his accomplishments.