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Even Apple finally admits that 8GB RAM isn't enough (www.xda-developers.com)

submitted 4 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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There were a number of exciting announcements from Apple at WWDC 2024, from macOS Sequoia to Apple Intelligence. However, a subtle addition to Xcode 16 — the development environment for Apple platforms, like iOS and macOS — is a feature called Predictive Code Completion. Unfortunately, if you bought into Apple's claim that 8GB of unified memory was enough for base-model Apple silicon Macs, you won't be able to use it. There's a memory requirement for Predictive Code Completion in Xcode 16, and it's the closest thing we'll get from Apple to an admission that 8GB of memory isn't really enough for a new Mac in 2024.

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[+] [email protected] -9 points 4 months ago (6 children)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wonder what is the general use for the Mac Mini, MacBook Air, iMac, and MacBook Pro? People generally seem to do all the lightweight stuff like social media consumption on their phones; and desktops/laptops are used for the more heavy-weight stuff. The only reason I've ever used a Mac was for IOS development.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I have a friend who is self-employed. He uses an iPhone and a MacBook Air. He only uses iMessage, Numbers, Safari and Apple Music for entertainment. He gets away with 8gb just fine and rarely has to reboot.

He probably could use a Chromebook or something even lighter, but the support and ecosystem were enough for him to pay the premium. His time is valuable to him so it was worth it to him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Any computer with only 1MB of RAM is also usable ... as paperweight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Well, 2000€ for a "Pro" model of the Macbook 14" with only 8GB RAM sounds a bit strange, tbf. And +230€ for +8GB is straight up greedy.

They said "Actually, 8GB on an M3 MacBook Pro is probably analogous to 16GB on other systems" and well , that's definitely not the case for their upcoming AI usecases, because - and many people seem to overlook that - their RAM is shared RAM (or as they call it "unified memory"), which means that the GPU is limited by these 8GB of (V)RAM because it can only use what is left by the System usage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, boo, everyone wants to hate Apple these days. It's the Zeitgeist. Even if you say something reasonable or perhaps factual, the people are against you and will react violently.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Accurate.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you choose to be a weak little quiet corporate Stan then that's up to you. Apple is well aware that third party apps exist and they're well aware that machines with less ram will need replaced far sooner than machines with more. RAM is cheap and Apples intigrated memory is no different in the regard. The only reason to use less is planned obsolescence. If you don't believe that then you're either Tim Cook or you're an idiot.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What is the obsession with shitting on people's choices? I don't understand the irony of demanding choice in this industry, then shitting on people when they make a choice you don't agree with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What is the obsession with shitting on people’s choices?

As much as people want to act like they are better than they were, say, 100 years ago, it's not really true. Humans are really just advanced monkeys running around and very few can actually surpass that nature.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

This we can agree on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

No one is shitting on other people's choices. They are criticizing a major corporations choices to skimp on specs while charging a premium price. Specs that can't be upgraded and will absolutely lead to a shorter usable life. I find it odd that people get upset about criticism that isn't aimed at them at all. The only thing I can think is maybe they realize they were ripped off after putting so much money into Apple products and they need to defend their financial decisions. Even then I don't fully understand. I've purchased overpriced junk many times and don't feel the need to defend the offending company. Maybe it's because Apple has managed to make their customers feel like they're in an exclusive club even though everyone uses Apple products these days. A publicly traded company is around to make money and nothing more. They should never be held in reverence.