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[+] [email protected] -31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If the infrastructure wasn't intentionally sabotaged by Hamas there would be less suffering. Water infrastructure in Gaza has been suffering for years due to Hamas' actions. Bombing provoked by October 7th and the continued holding of hostages has exacerbated the problem but let's not pretend that municipal water "run" by a genocidal terrorist group was serving all innocent Palestinians with the water they needed prior to the war.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Your argument is my least favourite, because what you're saying is at least largely true (not sure about everything you've said but most of it)... But it's also irrelevant and absolutely neither an excuse for Israel's actions. At all. This is the worst kind of whataboutism.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That shit is very much like the Nazis blaming the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto for what the Nazis were doing to them.

The ethno-Fascists style of excuse is the same for Zionists as it was for Nazis with little more than the names of the "ethnics" and of the "places" changed.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If the infrastructure wasn’t intentionally sabotaged by Hamas there would be less suffering.

Sure, but if the entire city wasn't bombed to rubble then there would be a LOT less suffering. Calling for ending the destruction of a whole community of people, including mostly civilians and children, shouldn't get horrible people like you coming out of the woodwork to push back on calls for mercy and compassion for people who have done nothing to deserve what's being done to them.

People like you break my heart. I will tell my friends and family about you personally. I want you to know that. I will tell them tonight how I was just seeing a bad person online who supports the mindless murder of civilians. Some random person who had to type out their defense and justification for inflicting suffering on innocent people. You are an example so thank you, I can screen-shot this and compile this along with others who support genocide and suffering of people for their skin color and ethnicity, and maybe your little comment here will make it into a history book someday.

What side of history do you think you'll land on anyway? I would offer you a lot of historical examples of similar situations and the people who had takes like yours.

[+] [email protected] -13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I hope you and your family are well. I'm sorry that the most interesting thing you have to talk about is my comment on some meme.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

You're more sorry about that than justifying genocide?

So, when we look at the actions taken, the dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act, according to the convention, of genocide. And Israel, I must say, is also perpetrating act number two and three — that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating condition designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals, which the World Health Organization has declared to be, quote, “a death sentence.” So, we’re seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide.

“A Textbook Case of Genocide”: Israeli Holocaust Scholar Raz Segal Decries Israel’s Assault on Gaza

Law for Palestine Releases Database with 500+ Instances of Israeli Incitement to Genocide – Continuously Updated

AP News, Time, Reuters, Vox, CBC

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

it's not that innocent what you are engaged in, child