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[USA] Appeals court rules that cops can physically make you unlock your phone (reason.com)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

No judge can overrule an "I forgot the password"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

note that in the UK, yes they can. The offence is “failing to unlock the device.”

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Oi mate u got a loicense to forget that password?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wow, just did a reading on that, it is beyond fucked up

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Hey, I'm from the other thread, and I'm using Thunder on mobile... seeing as I ended up blocking MindTraveller to keep my blood pressure at a reasonable level, thus preventing me from seeing that whole comment chain and replying to you in that thread... and ... I don't seem to be able to initiate a dm on Thunder? Maybe because your account is based in another instance?

Just wanted to reply to you here.

Thank you. I'm 35, queer autistic man, and I somehow seem to be the most left leaning person I know IRL at nearly all times of my life, and I actually put my... boots where my ideology is, worked at non profits, volunteered, actually do the mutual aid thing.

But somehow, online, theres always somebody who in their mind is the perfect embodiment of the progressive advocate, the perfect member of society who... fairly obviously is either extremely privileged, or terminally online to the point of delusion, and they will have no problem telling you that actually you're a pos because they have a whole fun world view that answers every question even though it bears little resemblance to reality, and your reality informed views do not align with this.

Cest la vie, thats just how things go.

Thanks again for your kind words, and I guess apologies to the mods, if someone could explain to me how to dm another user on Thunder, I'd appreciate it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Odd, I can't either on Sync or Web, but was able to in Voyager(Whether you will receive it or not, remains to be seen). Gay guy, 37, probably queer but the definition changes so much I never know when it is OK to use it and when it is not, but I agree.

And I am not as hardcore as you are, I wish I could afford it though. Third world living in a capitalistic hellscape can be tough. And today I am dealing with mortality again as my oldest cat is very ill, so I haven't slept in a while.

I am very scientific, critical of everything, and try to fight for what I believe in, which is hard, especially when I have 3 cats who depend on me.

And from what I said earlier, you deserve every word. You are a beacon, my boy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Thanks, truly.

(Hey, I'm being so sincere right now =P)

((See other reply to your other comment))

Best wishes to your cats.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wasnt there a guy that was kept in prison for years because he "couldnt remember" his password?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's law in the UK:

Section 49 of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 gives the police the power to issue a notice which requires the suspect to disclose their PIN or password if necessary. You are not compelled to provide your password to the police in any instance.

However, section 53 of RIPA makes it a criminal offence not to comply with the terms of a s.49 notice which is punishable by up to two years imprisonment and up to 5 years imprisonment in cases involving national security and child indecency.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So you have to hand over your password if they claim you wont give over your password cause you are hiding CSM?

also the guy I am thinking of is American.. which I cant find, because there are too many stories about Americans being put in jail/prison for ridiculouslylong amounts of time for not giving over passwords

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

If the police and/or Crown Prosecution Service claim you're hiding Material behind a password, you can either hand over the password or get thrown in jail under RIPA §53.

I don't know what section of the US Code would apply for the same, but a generic "Obstructing Justice" wouldn't surprise me.