this post was submitted on 11 Jun 2024
125 points (91.9% liked)

Technology

59217 readers
2773 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm no expert, but this doesn't sound like a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The alternatives are the status quo or severely restricting natural gas extraction. I won't say the latter isn't doable, especially if we can ramp up nuclear power capacity, but there's a lot of baggage there. We should welcome a solution that effectively makes natural gas an emissions-free resource.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't call carbon monoxide a good side product. If the amount created is negligible then great, but are there realistic figures?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also, its probably safe to assume the producers will lie about how much they're allowing to leak into the air.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

You're cheating by using trends to predict this. :-p

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand what you mean. As described in the article, the process leaves the CO trapped in the ground.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, the article says that but I'm not sure how much I believe it. If there's a decent body of work that draws consensus I would be less sceptical.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not sure what direction to point you in. Gas storage in geological formations has been successfully practiced in the helium and natural gas industries for a while. Subterranean storage of carbon dioxide has also been successfully demonstrated. Apparently, there's a big gas field being used for this purpose off the coast of Norway since 1996.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Keeping in mind I have zero knowledge of what you're telling me about, but these examples don't include anything about carbon monoxide.

If the similarities to the other gases are close enough to mean that it can be safely stored using the same techniques, then I'm inclined to feel a lot less worried about the whole thing.

But I don't really trust these sectors to act on our behalf, only to make profit line go up. Lying and bribing appears to be part of that, as can be seen all around us these days.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm unaware of any examples of subterranean carbon monoxide storage. However, underground helium storage has been done successfully for a while. Helium is one of the best gases at leaking because of its small size, which should provide some reassurance as to the storage of larger gases underground.

I agree that greed and corporate malfeasance are a thing, but it's kind of a separate problem. The government is either going to enforce environmental regulations and manage our resources properly or it's not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, that sounds promising at least.

If you don't think those things are very much related, may I suggest reading this post on Lemmy today.

The levels of corruption aimed at climate denial and in furthering fossil fuels is frightening.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

For sure. The fossil fuel industry is absolutely insidious.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I won't say the latter isn't doable, especially if we can ramp up nuclear power capacity

We could do both and hedge our bets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Yes. I mean, I don't think we're getting anywhere without a war economy build-out of nuclear power capacity regardless.