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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (7 children)

American evangelicals are the craziest bunch of kooks on the planet. As a Canadian I gotta wonder if normal Americans are embarrassed by their evangelicals. I mean it's all about money and maybe a little Jesus as long as you hate the gays.

It's nuts.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

as you hate the gays.

You're not giving them enough credit. They also hate trans, women, pregnant people, free-thought… the list goes on and on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Out-groups. The more the better, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Also a Canadian. I heard Rick Mercer tonight he spoke for about 1 hr and he did highlight the right evangelical nonsense. Shit is bleeding up here and has been for decades. It's scary AF. There are many people where there is no Canadian identity. It's a proxy for American Identity and as such they're as regressive as you would expect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are many people where there is no Canadian identity

There isn't really a Canadian identity left at this point. I live in a tiny rural community where we consider ourselves to be keeping the torch in a way... We don't lock our doors, we share and help each other, call each other on the phone just to chat, we sit around and drink too much coffee or beer and wrench on old junk. Drive around in winter plowing driveways and pulling cars out of the ditch. If a neighbour needs a tool it's just "let yourself into the shop and it's in the red toolbox, bring it back when you're done"

The cities though? I have friends there and that community attitude is long dead. Any available resources are exploited and nothing given in return, everyone is poor and desperate and barely making rent. Our country is very sick.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I've been pondering this one because I grew up a country boy and now live in the city. What you're talking about still exists. I live in Newmarket, ON and still rarely lock my doors and so all the things you mention.

John Ralston Saul said, and I'm paraphrasing, what made Canadians special was the uniqueness in how we came to be. Our relationship with "the other" now defined as immigrants, comes from a natural place of understanding and respect. You become a Canadian but you also keep your identity because Canada is made stronger by that inter-weaving of social fabrics.

I will agree that our country is hurting but I would argue the biggest threat to our nation is the immigration of American style identity politics that started back in the 80's and has since escalated to a wave of "Fuck Trudeau".

I have said before what truly scares me is that the Conservative movement in all their bigoted while male centric policies has realized that they can synergize their vitriol with people who have come here from brutally regressive countries when it comes to the treatment of women, gays and minorities.

Big picture we are going in the right direction but it's going to be a rough decade or so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

also a Canadian. but I have nothing further to add.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

As an American I'm embarrassed by like 80% of my fellow citizens.