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Ah okay, thanks for the explanation.
I think a lot of your argument boils down to "Us vs Nature", that the farm life of a cow is preferable to what might happen in the wild.
Don't forget that male cow (steer) are typically killed on their first birthday, with some pasturalised cattle getting to live until 3. A cow is meant to live until 15-20. Male chickens are ground up or gassed upon birth. Dairy cows are kept constantly pregnant and separated from calves until they dry up and are no longer profitable by which time they're immediately slaughtered. Sows are kept in sow stalls so cramped they can't physically move, often never seeing daylight their entire life.
I think I'd take freedom over that.
If an alien species does come down, you'd hope they'd be more moral than us humans and wouldn't factory farm us huh.
I don't advocate for a complete vegan diet to start with if you can't. Every meal you don't eat meat is better for you, the animal and the planet. Substituting ingredients is easy, especially with fake mince - it's probably the best faux meat there is.
Male cattle used to be used for the plow. Again its a modern thing to just kill them. Male chickens are another matter as there was not much use for more than one and they tended to fight. Sows again your talking the modern factory farming thing. Yeah I was trying to cut out one animal at a time and my goal was only eggs and cheese but I have given up given how much I hear from folks its all the same and just as bad. Its pretty hard to stay motivated honestly and I simply have not been able to eat vegan meal after meal. I used to think the vampires shows were the "good" vampire fell off the wagon and drained humans was dumb but my experiences cutting out meat makes me think if I was a vampire I would likely be drinking humans.