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I feel like we need to talk about Lemmy's massive tankie censorship problem. A lot of popular lemmy communities are hosted on lemmy.ml. It's been well known for a while that the admins/mods of that instance have, let's say, rather extremist and onesided political views. In short, they're what's colloquially referred to as tankies. This wouldn't be much of an issue if they didn't regularly abuse their admin/mod status to censor and silence people who dissent with their political beliefs and for example, post things critical of China, Russia, the USSR, socialism, ...

As an example, there was a thread today about the anniversary of the Tiananmen Massacre. When I was reading it, there were mostly posts critical of China in the thread and some whataboutist/denialist replies critical of the USA and the west. In terms of votes, the posts critical of China were definitely getting the most support.

I posted a comment in this thread linking to "https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs" (WARNING: graphical content), which describes aspects of the atrocities that aren't widely known even in the West, and supporting evidence. My comment was promptly removed for violating the "Be nice and civil" rule. When I looked back at the thread, I noticed that all posts critical of China had been removed while the whataboutist and denialist comments were left in place.

This is what the modlog of the instance looks like:

Definitely a trend there wouldn't you say?

When I called them out on their one sided censorship, with a screenshot of the modlog above, I promptly received a community ban on all communities on lemmy.ml that I had ever participated in.

Proof:

So many of you will now probably think something like: "So what, it's the fediverse, you can use another instance."

The problem with this reasoning is that many of the popular communities are actually on lemmy.ml, and they're not so easy to replace. I mean, in terms of content and engagement lemmy is already a pretty small place as it is. So it's rather pointless sitting for example in /c/[email protected] where there's nobody to discuss anything with.

I'm not sure if there's a solution here, but I'd like to urge people to avoid lemmy.ml hosted communities in favor of communities on more reasonable instances.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Tbh this is one of the reasons why I'm looking forward toward Sublinks

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Compatible alternative to Lemmy: https://sublinks.org/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Is there anything Sublinks will offer that's different to Lemmy? Because if not, I'm afraid the issues OP is talking about would still exist either way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Nothing particularly, but it would let LW and other instances distance themselves from the lemmy.ml admins.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Is there anything Sublinks will offer that's different to Lemmy?

A different dev team. If there's only one dev team for the entire threadiverse, that team has a certain degree of power. If there are multiple dev teams working on compatible threadiverse software, that power is distributed among many.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

If it works the same way then nothing will be solved. That's why I keep saying it, the hosting needs to be decentralized but the rest needs to work like an admin-less Reddit, moderators would have their community/ies but they wouldn't be able to ban you altogether and you wouldn't depend on an admin to decide what you can and cannot see, you would block the communities you don't want in your feed yourself.