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Reminder to switch browsers if you haven't already!


  • Google Chrome is starting to phase out older, more capable ad blocking extensions in favor of the more limited Manifest V3 system.
  • The Manifest V3 system has been criticized by groups like the Electronic Frontier Foundation for restricting the capabilities of web extensions.
  • Google has made concessions to Manifest V3, but limitations on content filtering remain a source of skepticism and concern.
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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (5 children)
[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's still DNS level only, right? That wouldn't stop YouTube ads, or remove annoyances.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Love my PiHole but you’re hella correct

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can block ads from being served to you.

But the flip side is that the website developer can make a website that won't function if it can't load the ads being served.

And most users are gonna want a functional website.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Somebody's going to need to write a web site with a very, very compelling function to make me give enough of a shit to not just click away if it is deliberately coded to not work with Firefox/adblockers. Like, gives me a million dollars per page load functionality.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

And they never will.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You sweet summer child.

How long do you think Chrome will let DoH be opt-in?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (5 children)

You sweet summer child

How are they going to get past my firewall rules?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago

Nerd fight! Nerd fight! Nerd fight! Show 'em your bionicles collection!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

By using the same hostnames that you need for wanted content.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

By refusing to load

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Personally, I'd like to see them force in-browser DoH down my throat with my computer powered off. They'll never see it coming.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The day they do their own DoH in-browser it is definitely up to them. It's already opt-in if you want to see how well your pi-hole won't work with it enabled.

Next step is to do DoH by default, and finally making it compulsory.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Chrome already does have DoH enabled by default from what I can tell.

https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/10468685

By default, Secure DNS in Chrome is turned on in automatic mode. If Chrome has issues looking up a site in this mode, it'll look up the site in the unencrypted mode.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They can do it all they want but it won't work...

If I "opt in" it falls back to non doh immediately because using doh on my network is not up to Chrome.

use-application-dns.net + nxdomain for any known doh provider

I don't use pihole but doh blocking works great on my network. It should work on a pihole tho it's pretty basic stuff.

If you can't resolve the domain you can't validate the TLS certificate.