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[–] [email protected] 129 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

If you're here because of the AI headline, this is important to read.

We’re looking at how we can use local, on-device AI models -- i.e., more private -- to enhance your browsing experience further. One feature we’re starting with next quarter is AI-generated alt-text for images inserted into PDFs, which makes it more accessible to visually impaired users and people with learning disabilities.

They are implementing AI how it should be. Don't let all the shitty companies blind you to the fact what we call AI has positive sides.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They are implementing AI how it should be.

The term is so overused and abused that I'm not clear what they're even promising. Are they localizing a LLM? Are they providing some kind of very fancy macroing? Are they linking up with ChatGPT somehow or integrating with Co-pilot? There's no way to tell from the verbage.

And that's not even really Mozilla's fault. It's just how the term AI can mean anything from "overhyped javascript" to "multi-billion dollar datacenter full of fake Scarlett Johansson voice patterns".

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

there are language models that are quite feasible to run locally for easier tasks like this. “local” rules out both ChatGPT and Co-pilot since those models are enormous. AI generally means machine learned neural networks these days, even if a pile of if-else used to pass in the past.

not sure how they’re going to handle low-resource machines, but as far as AI integrations go this one is rather tame

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

AI generally means machine learned neural networks these days

Right, but a neural network traditionally rules out using a single local machine. Hell, we have entire chip architecture that revolves around neural net optimization. I can't imagine needing that kind of configuration for my internet browser.

not sure how they’re going to handle low-resource machines

One of the perks of Firefox is its relative thinness. Chrome was a shameless resource hog even in its best days, and IE wasn't any better. Do I really want Firefox chewing hundreds of MB of memory so it can... what? Simulate a 600 processor cluster doing weird finger art?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

i mean, i’ve worked in neural networks for embedded systems, and it’s definitely possible. i share you skepticism about overhead, but i’ll eat my shoes if it isn’t opt in

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

I don't doubt it's possible. I'm just not sure how it would be useful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I use my local machine for neutral networks just fine

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are a lot of knee jerk reactions in the comments. I hope few of those commenters have read the article or, at the least, your comment.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

thats most of the internet, just reacting to headlines.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

We're also using machine learning for the local site translation. The AI buzzword is doing more damage than good PR.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

AI has become truly meaningless term for everything and nothing.

Not to mention all the justified hate it received. It’s probably time to kill it once again and delegate it to the future like usual every 10 years or so starting with Deep Blue